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pasky | oh I was just about to link warp-ctc :) | 03:47 |
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kanzure | were you? | 08:20 |
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pasky | I was at Schmidhuber's keynote this morning and he talked about CTC so it got chewing in my head that maybe the alignment / segmentation problem isn't that bad as i thought | 08:35 |
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kanzure | pasky: ah. i was looking at CTC implementations last night. i thought maybe i had said something in the channel about it... | 09:39 |
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kanzure | http://nautil.us/issue/39/sport/we-are-nowhere-close-to-the-limits-of-athletic-performance | 10:14 |
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fenn | what's the difference between CTC and dynamic time warping? | 11:27 |
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FourFire | edmond, | 11:44 |
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kanzure | https://github.com/yiwangbaidu/notes/blob/master/CTC/CTC.md | 11:56 |
kanzure | fenn: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/ai/speech-recognition/ | 12:01 |
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pasky | there's also https://github.com/fchollet/keras/pull/3436 | 13:14 |
pasky | (no idea about speed) | 13:15 |
kanzure | see https://github.com/fchollet/keras/issues/383 | 13:15 |
kanzure | oh yours is more recent. fine. | 13:15 |
kanzure | oh look actual code review on that pull request. | 13:17 |
genehacker | anyone familiar with microwave RF stuff? | 13:24 |
kanzure | ask superkuh | 13:25 |
genehacker | he works with that stuff? | 13:25 |
kanzure | various radio things, probably he has looked at radio at some point | 13:26 |
kanzure | *microwave at some point | 13:26 |
genehacker | so I'm wondering about making an RFID chip for venus | 13:26 |
genehacker | *RFID not chip | 13:26 |
genehacker | venus is basically hell | 13:27 |
genehacker | it's so hot that electronics as we know it don't work | 13:27 |
kanzure | also if superkuh doesn't know then we can always ask jcorgan (gnuradio-sdr maintainer) | 13:27 |
genehacker | but fluidics and mechanical systems don't care about the heat | 13:29 |
genehacker | so we can build a probe that has some fluidic logic and sensors and stuff and it can do science | 13:30 |
genehacker | problem is getting data back | 13:30 |
genehacker | so I'm thinking maybe I can use said fluidics to modulate the radar cross section of said probe | 13:31 |
kanzure | iirc some data was retrieved from venus landers | 13:32 |
genehacker | so we can hit it with radar, look at how the cross section changes and get data back | 13:32 |
genehacker | it was, but those landers didn't last more than a couple hours before the electronics inside literally melted | 13:32 |
genehacker | if we want to do long term science, we need something that can take the heat | 13:34 |
genehacker | https://www.nasa.gov/feature/automaton-rover-for-extreme-environments-aree | 13:35 |
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kanzure | there was also something about terraforming venus. i don't remember where we put those details... | 14:53 |
kanzure | it was probably floating city stuff, to be fair. | 14:53 |
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chris_99 | streety, hey, i just found the visualmic vids can now be downloaded too! so i'd be able to try with yours and theirs, i'm gonna see if i can try a simpler approach than theirs i think (whether that will work though) | 15:01 |
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JayDugger | Fogg and Sagan both had write-ups of terraforming Venus that didn't involve gasbag cities. | 15:03 |
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delinquentme | Hue. | 16:23 |
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maaku_ | I believe there is a proposed lander/rover for venus that is meant to last weeks instead of hours? | 16:40 |
maaku_ | https://web.archive.org/web/20140301115009/http://www.planetaryprobe.org/sessionfiles/session2/papers/lorenz_venus_lander-paper.pdf | 16:43 |
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maaku_ | 50-200 day mission | 16:45 |
maaku_ | the "examples of proposals" part of this article is a wonderful read :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discovery_Program | 16:46 |
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genehacker | yeah that one uses plutonium for power though | 17:18 |
genehacker | NASA is running out of that | 17:18 |
genehacker | here's a more detailed study on a plutonium powered rover: http://www.hou.usra.edu/meetings/venustech2015/pdf/4021.pdf | 17:19 |
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genehacker | err.. this is it: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Anthony_Colozza/publication/268569312_Venus_Rover_Design_Study/links/563a285508ae405111a57d2e.pdf | 17:20 |
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genehacker | a more recent proposal uses high temperature SiC electronics which don't need cooling | 17:23 |
genehacker | allowing the electronics to be powered with some very big solar cells: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20150000879.pdf | 17:23 |
genehacker | SiC electronics still don't perform very well though | 17:24 |
genehacker | packaging is a problem | 17:27 |
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streety | chris_99: that's useful. Having the same starting material should make getting the same result a lot simpler | 17:44 |
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kanzure | "Opportunities and limits of remote timing attacks" (2009) http://www.cs.rice.edu/~dwallach/pub/crosby-timing2009.pdf | 20:18 |
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nmz787_ | kanzure: that QM [super]conduction theory seems to gel with me | 22:08 |
nmz787_ | gene_hacker: maybe modulation of ferrofluids? through some non-magnetic section (window?) | 22:17 |
nmz787_ | gene_hacker: would something like this work, would something like this survive the temps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplidyne | 22:20 |
nmz787_ | it's electrical, but not electronic | 22:20 |
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