2016-09-07.log

--- Log opened Wed Sep 07 00:00:47 2016
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fenn.title http://youtu.be/k_4ila-VktM00:44
yoleauxHomemade ORU KAYAK - YouTube00:44
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kanzurehttp://www.slideshare.net/ynotds/ethologys-anthropocentric-misassumption06:49
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kanzure"Foldscope: origami-based paper microscope" https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1403/1403.1211.pdf (from the same group that did the paperfuge recently)08:00
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kanzuremarvin minsky was the inventor of confocal scanning microscopy? hrm.09:37
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abetuskis foldoscope "open" (cc-by, cc-by-sa design files)?11:32
abetusk Is Foldscope an open hardware project? Do you have plans for the same?11:33
abetuskWe are currently exploring best possible ways to provide quality tools to largest number of people. We have two missions; one in healthcare and one in education. We are exploring all possible options to bring this tool to the masses and exploring licenses that allow us to do this in a sustainable manner. More information about this will be available here soon.11:33
abetuskhttp://www.foldscope.com/faqs/11:33
gradstudentbotThat's enzymatically impossible.11:33
CaptHindsightI want a microscope made only from dairy products11:36
chris_99lol11:37
chris_99what about poor vegans though then CaptHindsight11:37
__mz_ogluten free microscopes11:38
CaptHindsightthey aren't required to consume any of the microscope to use it11:38
chris_99i could of sworn i heard something about vegans + old fashioned film, and not using it because of the gelatin, but maybe that's untrue11:42
__mz_oi hope thats untrue11:43
* kanzure pokes gradstudentbot11:44
gradstudentbotOh, are you done writing that paper already?11:44
chris_99https://www.reddit.com/r/analog/comments/1tqg0r/vegan_friendly_film/ mentions about it though __mz_o11:44
kanzureis this film that you can eat?11:44
kanzurewait why does CaptHindsight want a cheese microscope?11:44
CaptHindsightwhere do vegans draw the line on what is edible or workable?11:45
kanzuremicroscopes. that's the line.11:45
CaptHindsightwith vs without eyes?11:45
juri_i draw the line at endorsing murder or slavery.11:45
__mz_otypical juri_11:46
__mz_ojury thinks theyre so right11:46
CaptHindsightchris_99: you be right http://petapixel.com/2011/11/15/did-you-know-film-and-photo-paper-are-made-using-animals-parts/11:50
CaptHindsighthttp://www.peta.org/about-peta/faq/does-film-contain-gelatin/11:51
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maakujuri_: compilers are slaves...12:11
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__mz_oenslaved to produce byte code for the rest of their existance...12:13
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juri_wow, that's some grade B trolling.12:23
juri_they also use gelatin in food. i'd much rather see it in film and photo paper. ;)12:24
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xentracis it really trolling if they post it on their own website and don't allow comments, juri_?  Or maybe that's what you mean by "grade B"13:44
xentracPETA does do some pretty great trolling but that page reads as entirely reasonable if you accept their basic assumption about the relative moral value of animals13:46
xentrac(or maybe you meant the "compilers are slaves" line?)13:47
c0rw1n_obligatory http://petrl.org/13:47
c0rw1n_.title13:47
yoleauxPeople for the Ethical Treatment of Reinforcement Learners13:47
xentracbtw, I wanted to explain my comments earlier about ImplicitCAD: it's not that I think it's bad in some absolute sense, just that it wouldn't resolve my greatest frustrations with doing parametric design in PostScript13:49
xentracnamely, I can't identify things by pointing at them with the mouse; I don't get access to the generated geometry so that I can do things like put a chamfer 1.5mm away from an intersection; and the paradigm for instantiating parametric parts is functional rather than relational/constraint-based13:50
xentracPostScript is slightly worse in that its paradigm is instead imperative, leading to me wasting time debugging nonsense like how my turtle ended up pointing the wrong direction, but since I can write higher-order functions in PostScript, that isn't actually as big a problem as you'd think13:51
chris_99anyone ever seen sheets of Quantum tunnelling composite, all i can seem to find at the moment is tiny 'pill' sized amounts14:29
kanzurexentrac: you probably have to highlight juri_ to get a response there14:36
gradstudentbotI'm glad you brought that up, I'm going to do that right now.14:37
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maakugradstudentbot: no you won't14:52
gradstudentbotI'm only doing this to get tenure.14:52
maakuok then14:52
kanzureinstall_requires does not support wheels. python continues to boggle my mind.14:53
kanzurepython dependency management seems to still be broken14:56
kanzuresigmavirus24 has done a bunch of good work with pip and setuptools but i guess something is still v. broken14:56
maakukanzure: isn't that layer violating?15:00
maakuyou can provide wheel files to pip15:00
maakuto meet those dependencies15:00
kanzurewhich layer is being violated? install_requires should have a list of the dependecies, right?15:01
kanzure*dependencies15:01
maakuyes, but you just specify what packages and version constraints, not which type of package distribution mechanism is used, right?15:02
kanzureyes but some developers (like petertodd) only release wheels instead of sdist15:03
kanzureunfortunately install_requires is only compatible with sdist15:03
kanzurehttps://github.com/petertodd/python-bitcoinlib/issues/11715:05
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kanzure[Anders] was part of the thread (that Eliezer started) that led to the first story in Accelerando, "Lobsters"."16:48
kanzure+"16:48
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kanzurelooks like the piezo array stuff is shipping? http://www.soundlazer.com/product/large-ultrasonic-speaker-array/17:20
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kanzure"Changes in brain striatum dopamine and acetylcholine receptors induced by chronic CDP-choline treatment of aging mice" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1908237/19:24
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