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| JayDugger | Good morning. | 06:04 |
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| streety | This was interesting: http://dx.doi.org/10.1002/ca.22680 I had assumed we had our anatomy thoroughly identified | 06:37 |
| kanzure | .title | 06:46 |
| yoleaux | A newly discovered muscle: The tensor of the vastus intermedius - Grob - 2016 - Clinical Anatomy - Wiley Online Library | 06:46 |
| kanzure | streety: nope there's lots of weird stuff in the human body that we haven't figured out yet. nobody does dissections! | 06:46 |
| kanzure | there was recently a new cranial nerve | 06:47 |
| kanzure | or something | 06:47 |
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| TMA | kanzure: ('twas an artery, IIRC) the funny thing is that the reaction was: "of course, we have already presumed that there is that, it would be only logical, the ateries are usually located in places like that. we just couldn't be bothered to actually look for it to confirm or deny the existence. we have real science to do, unlike that poser that found it" | 07:18 |
| kanzure | hooray we're getting rid of time zones https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12887007 | 07:26 |
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| kanzure | hi biohackerdude | 09:21 |
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| biohackerdude | hi :3 | 09:50 |
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| kanzure | "benefits of intranasal insulin" and some instructions http://www.lostfalco.com/intranasal-insulin/ | 10:09 |
| kanzure | strangely spammy site. nevermind. | 10:10 |
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| kanzure | https://www.overcomingbias.com/2016/11/brains-simpler-than-brain-cells.html | 10:48 |
| maaku | andytoshi: mailman | 10:49 |
| maaku | newbie: join alcor and become an english teacher abroad. done. | 10:50 |
| andytoshi | maaku: would i need to host my own instance? | 10:50 |
| kanzure | .title | 10:50 |
| yoleaux | Overcoming Bias : Brains Simpler Than Brain Cells? | 10:50 |
| kanzure | andytoshi: blockstream.io hosts mailing lists | 10:50 |
| andytoshi | lol, i think i knew that and then totally forgot.. | 10:51 |
| kanzure | your cert expired guys, wtf | 10:51 |
| andytoshi | but i'd rather not have public association between blockstream and grin when there are so many anonymous people working on it ... it would fuel so much conspiracy | 10:51 |
| newbie | maaku, I'm not a native english speaker | 10:52 |
| kanzure | maybe the conspiracy is instead: why isn't the rest of the bitcoin industry jumping at the chance to host that mailing list? | 10:52 |
| maaku | Solvaring: I use Theanine whenever I drink coffee. Helps mellow out the caffeine (which I'm overly sensitive to) | 10:52 |
| Solvaring | Holyshit?! | 10:53 |
| Solvaring | Are you in a time warp maaku ?! | 10:53 |
| Solvaring | Responding to things I said last night?! | 10:53 |
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| maaku | the main piece of advice for nootropics and supplements is that everyone's biology is remarkably different. you just have to try and see, starting with small doses and working your way up | 10:53 |
| Solvaring | I haven't said a thing in IRC since i logged on this morning. | 10:54 |
| Solvaring | So you must be responding to stuff I asked last night | 10:54 |
| maaku | andytoshi: maybe ask your employer to host it? I hear they host the lightning and sidechain mailing lists | 10:56 |
| maaku | ask for a mimblewimble-dev instance | 10:57 |
| maaku | actually wait, that got moved to linux foundation I think, but they'd probably be amenable. ask rusty or warren | 10:57 |
| andytoshi | ok, peverell was talking about going to savannah.nongnu.org | 10:57 |
| maaku | or that | 10:58 |
| maaku | Solvaring: IRC bouncers are a wonderful thing | 10:58 |
| maaku | it's how then channel generally works.. asynchronous communication when people are offline. when you come back online, check the logs | 10:58 |
| kanzure | irc is a standardized implementation of time warp, not sure why you are surprised | 10:58 |
| andytoshi | maaku: good idea, i'll see what igno thinks | 10:59 |
| maaku | newbie: are you of european descent and speak english, even horribly accented? that seems to be the only requirement in my experience | 11:00 |
| Solvaring | I keep my logs off | 11:01 |
| maaku | (I have african and asian american friends that can't get a job teaching english, despite being native speakers, and some german friends that had no problem) | 11:01 |
| maaku | Solvaring: that makes you significantly less useful to me :( | 11:02 |
| Solvaring | yeah, well | 11:02 |
| newbie | yes,but I can't really travel to asia | 11:02 |
| Solvaring | malicious links, strings, etc. etc. | 11:02 |
| Solvaring | i guess i'm being a bit paranoid | 11:03 |
| newbie | I am wheelchair bonded | 11:03 |
| newbie | bonded? bounded? | 11:03 |
| andytoshi | i think just "bound" is most natural | 11:04 |
| maaku | newbie: ah yeah they haven't really figured out the whole accessibilty thing | 11:04 |
| newbie | no, just getting into an airplane is impossible | 11:04 |
| maaku | except maybe some parts of japan | 11:04 |
| maaku | ah i'm sorry to hear that | 11:04 |
| newbie | don't be | 11:05 |
| Solvaring | yes it's bound | 11:08 |
| Solvaring | 'wheelchair bound' | 11:09 |
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| Solvaring | okay | 11:10 |
| Solvaring | enabled scrollback of 1000 lines | 11:10 |
| Solvaring | you'll get no more from me! | 11:10 |
| JayDugger | maaku, just asking, but how much theanine did you take with your coffee? I have done the same, but dislike mixing the two. | 11:12 |
| maaku | JayDugger: 100mg in capsule form. If I was adding it as powder to the coffee i'd probably try a smaller dose | 11:20 |
| maaku | nothing magical to that number though, it's just the size of the pill and it seemed to work | 11:20 |
| maaku | if/when you need it there are also logs linked to in the topic | 11:21 |
| Solvaring | oh maaku | 11:23 |
| Solvaring | what did you say i should try? | 11:23 |
| Solvaring | when i logged on? | 11:23 |
| Solvaring | you said something important | 11:23 |
| Solvaring | i feel like | 11:23 |
| maaku | Theanine | 11:23 |
| Solvaring | oh yes | 11:23 |
| Solvaring | i just ordered some of that | 11:23 |
| Solvaring | as well as a noopept+choline supplement | 11:23 |
| maaku | i don't take it daily, just add it with coffee | 11:24 |
| Solvaring | i also have | 11:24 |
| maaku | i personally find sugar in coffee to have more of a nootropic effect than anything else | 11:24 |
| Solvaring | PEA, Phenibut, and Adrafinil on the way which im very excited to experiment with | 11:24 |
| maaku | the simple things sometimes work best | 11:24 |
| maaku | (not good for my weight though) | 11:24 |
| Solvaring | PEA in high doses gives euphoria and mental clarity | 11:24 |
| Solvaring | mood-lift FTW! | 11:25 |
| JayDugger | Thank you, maaku. Did you ever try using trehalose as a sweetener? | 11:25 |
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| maaku | Actually to be accurate the sweetener I use is condensed milk. I assume it is the sugar that is active, but it could be many things. | 11:27 |
| maaku | But having now read the wiki article on trehalose, it looks worth trying, especially in coffee because of the acidity | 11:27 |
| maaku | If I'm not at home or not at a south-east asian restaurant where condensed milk drinks are available, I use two sugars, but I find it doesn't have the same prolonged but mellow boost that a "sweet coffee" (think thai tea) has | 11:30 |
| JayDugger | It's been on my list to try for some time, but I dislike sweet coffee. I've nothing else to put it in, aside from water or soup. | 11:30 |
| Solvaring | wooowww guys | 11:31 |
| Solvaring | really? | 11:31 |
| Solvaring | i chuckle, because i am ignorant | 11:31 |
| maaku | Solvaring: natural stuff sometimes works best | 11:32 |
| maaku | and sometimes real drugs are required :) | 11:32 |
| Solvaring | i used to use major opiates and amphetamines and pharms, so hearing about the 'mentally increasing capacity' of different sugars | 11:32 |
| Solvaring | makes me lol | 11:32 |
| Solvaring | xD | 11:32 |
| Solvaring | when i eat sugar...my tongue is happy | 11:32 |
| JayDugger | Got it. Too sweet for me, then. As for the coffee/theanine, I'd alternate coffee with green tea, but disliked the effects. | 11:32 |
| Solvaring | that's it | 11:32 |
| maaku | Solvaring: low blood sugar levels leads to low energy. the biomechanics are quite simple | 11:32 |
| Solvaring | oh yeah | 11:32 |
| Solvaring | that's true | 11:32 |
| Solvaring | :P | 11:32 |
| Solvaring | i got a one touch in my bedroom | 11:33 |
| Solvaring | my wife had gestational diabetes | 11:33 |
| Solvaring | learned a lot about the diabeetus | 11:33 |
| Solvaring | One touch is a blood sugar monitoring device | 11:33 |
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| JayDugger | Oh? | 11:33 |
| Solvaring | so yeah obviously sugar has some basic affect, like keeping the steam engine alive and chugging along. | 11:34 |
| JayDugger | I hope your wife and child are doing well now. | 11:35 |
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| Solvaring | yeah | 11:37 |
| Solvaring | child is driving me crazy | 11:37 |
| JayDugger | As for sugar versus other things, sugar gives a more subtle effect. | 11:37 |
| maaku | Honestly for me a 'sweet coffee' is nearly exactly equal to 30mg amphetamine. Except the amphetamines last half the day whereas the coffee+sugar+theanine only a few hours | 11:39 |
| maaku | But everyone has different bio issues.. I suspect I have chronicly low blood sugar levels, so sweeteners + adderall would probably leave me highly productive | 11:40 |
| maaku | I'm still waiting for an Rx though :( | 11:41 |
| Solvaring | hmm yeah | 11:41 |
| Solvaring | i hear they arent hard to get a prescription for | 11:42 |
| Solvaring | but even if you cant | 11:42 |
| Solvaring | cheap places to buy them illegally exist | 11:42 |
| Solvaring | :P | 11:42 |
| Solvaring | I used to get them all the time | 11:42 |
| maaku | Well it's been hard to get the psychiatrist appointment in the first place. Health care system here is fucking useless. | 11:42 |
| JayDugger | I haven't got your sensitivity to caffeine, maaku, and while my wife has a scrip for Adderall, I've not really had an occasion to need to take her pills. | 11:44 |
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| Solvaring | the guys over at reddit-nootropics seemed to think this place was...not cool? | 11:45 |
| Solvaring | said you guys were a bit...uptight :P | 11:45 |
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| Solvaring | i agreed with them of course as I am a shit disturber | 11:46 |
| Solvaring | what have you to say? | 11:46 |
| Solvaring | or don't | 11:46 |
| JayDugger | Heh. It comes and goes in phases. | 11:46 |
| maaku | Solvaring: I say this is off-topic :P The chatter on this channel seems to be quite minimal, with a focus on problem solving, not topical debate | 11:47 |
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| JayDugger | And the "get back to work" flag is set. :) | 11:49 |
| Solvaring | aw man | 11:52 |
| Solvaring | v.v | 11:52 |
| Solvaring | was hoping for some funnies | 11:52 |
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| kanzure | some pictures of keyboards http://www.tomshardware.stfi.re/picturestory/736-history-of-mechanical-keyboards.html | 14:19 |
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| vicarion | re: mechanical keyboards, i'm still waiting for ones with newton level springs, so my fingers can get a workout while i play games | 15:37 |
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| newbie | my mom is black | 16:15 |
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| newbie | JenElizabeth: my I PM? | 16:17 |
| newbie | may* | 16:17 |
| newbie | damn | 16:17 |
| JenElizabeth | yeah | 16:19 |
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| vicarion | if you were about to lose your access to much of the scientific literature, what stuff would you grab copies of? | 16:49 |
| kanzure | all of it | 16:49 |
| kanzure | "methods in molecular biology" volumes 1 through 900 | 16:49 |
| vicarion | that sounds like a lot | 16:50 |
| vicarion | do they monitor for unusually high downloads? | 16:51 |
| kanzure | dunno | 16:54 |
| duper | vicarion: DIMACS DNA Based Computers | 16:56 |
| vicarion | kanzure, volumes 1 to 892 are up on pirate bay | 16:57 |
| kanzure | you work fast | 17:02 |
| vicarion | well, i can't take all the credit | 17:11 |
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| streety | Thanks kanzure and TMA, another misconception dispelled | 17:21 |
| streety | That was a ~12 hour time warp for those keeping track. Seems to be two groups of people using IRC, professionals where long gaps between responses are common and gamers where the expectation is for instant response. I'm not sure if this is true now but there seem to be many people who return to IRC surprised that it is used in a different way to their youth. It seems like quite a problem on tech/dev support channels. | 17:24 |
| vicarion | streety, maybe someday you could write us an article on the sociology of irc | 17:29 |
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| streety | lol, far too many other things to be written up | 17:32 |
| streety | and I'd rather be working on new experiments than writing up what I've already done | 17:32 |
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| kanzure | yes i think people are just generally surprised to learn about community backlogs | 18:41 |
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| nmz787_ | duper: DIMACS as in the SAT solver format? | 20:19 |
| nmz787_ | fenn: we use Python for register access stuff :P | 20:21 |
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| kanzure | large-scale automatic comparative neuroanatomy for mammals should be enough, really | 21:19 |
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| kanzure | i bet you could get a brain microbe to migrate to a particular region of the brain based on phased array energy stuff and magnetism and magnetic sensors. and then only at a certain power output location would the microbe stop moving around. | 21:36 |
| kanzure | also, we could have a microbe that analyzes synaptic junctions | 21:45 |
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| vicarion | or maybe a virus | 21:56 |
| vicarion | lots of viruses love to hide in the central nervous system | 21:56 |
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