- SKDB (Structured Knowledge Database for open-source hardware) was defended as still viable; critics countered that adoption failed because the project never reached the minimum feature set needed to attract contributors, and that “apt-get for hardware” suffers from a failure of imagination compared to the more mature incentive structures of biological self-replication.  
- Participants debated whether open-source manufacturing ecosystems require an initial capital influx and years of bootstrapping—mirroring the decades-long trajectory of free software—before becoming self-sustaining.  
- The “free-as-in-freedom vs. free-as-in-beer” distinction was dissected; some argued that abrasive culture in the libre-software community may deter broader participation in open-manufacturing projects.  
- Neuralink’s claim that single-neuron electrical spikes are only detectable within ~60 µm was explained by the high conductivity of brain fluid and the resulting spatial averaging of extracellular potentials.  
- A practical experiment was proposed: using a focused-ion-beam (FIB) system to etch a high-resolution colored hologram of the “gnusha” logo, contingent on locating a higher-resolution source image.  
- Molecular biology was framed as the most accessible form of molecular nanotechnology currently available, reinforcing the idea that bio-based self-replication outperforms mechanical “apt-get for hardware” paradigms.  
- Industrial automation was briefly discussed as a path to bootstrap open-manufacturing repositories, with the suggestion of using standard robotic arms to manipulate parts for SKDB-style workflows.