• Discussion of liquid-phase STM (scanning-tunneling microscopy) for DNA sequencing via tunneling-current measurements, prompted by nmz787’s prior search for such hardware.

• lsneff reported receiving quartz tuning-fork sensors and plans to begin weekend experiments, implying a DIY AFM/STM or force-spectroscopy project.

• kanzure shared a CoinDesk article announcing that Avanti Financial has become the second Wyoming-chartered crypto bank (after Kraken), highlighting Wyoming’s legislative push to attract digital-asset businesses.

• kanzure also posted a link to Eben Kirksey’s book “The Mutant Project,” framing it as a cautionary look at the He Jiankui gene-edited-babies controversy and the need for democratic oversight of germline engineering.

• fenn and fltrz debated whether falsely claiming to have created gene-edited humans would incur legal penalties in the U.S. absent investment fraud, concluding that no clear statute exists but reputational and regulatory risks remain.

• Extended argument over the ethics and feasibility of accelerating human evolution through germline engineering versus relying on natural selection; fltrz advocated self-experimentation first, while fenn emphasized the need to shift the Overton window before blanket bans take hold.

• fltrz used a physics analogy—detonating a novel hydrogen bomb that would give 30 % of the world cancer—to illustrate why society might legitimately delay high-risk biological experiments until safer methods emerge.

• fenn countered that banning all germline work is akin to banning ropes or bridges because some are unsafe, stressing that the public lacks imagination about the benefits of genetic enhancement.

• Both participants agreed that current computational power is insufficient to simulate all possible genomic variants, making higher-level biological prediction and experimental triage essential for any credible enhancement program.