- The channel debated the fundamental shortcomings of traditional build systems like GNU make, focusing on their failure to handle dependency management and their Unix-centric limitations.  
- Participants argued that dependency management should not be isolated to package managers but must be tightly integrated with the build system for reliable, reproducible builds.  
- Modern package managers—Portage (Gentoo), Nix, and Guix—were highlighted as superior because they treat dependency resolution, environment isolation, and reproducibility as first-class features rather than “maintainer headaches.”  
- The discussion noted that the embedded development ecosystem lags even further behind mainstream C/C++ workflows in adopting these modern build and package management practices.  
- A consensus emerged that wider adoption of Nix-like or Guix-like systems could significantly improve reproducibility and cross-platform support for open-source transhumanist and biohacking toolchains.