- A debate questioned whether the “micromort” metric ever escapes scientism, with one participant arguing that while small differences (2 vs 3 micromorts) are dubious, large differences (1000 vs 0.001 micromorts) can still be meaningful after calculation.

- A real-world Israeli IVF mix-up was discussed: an unrelated embryo was implanted, genetic tests later ruled out the presumed parents, leaving the child genetically orphaned before birth.

- Optimizely’s co-founder launched a perpetual desktop “self-surveillance search” product; participants wondered why it is a desktop app instead of AR glasses.

- The 2011 Black Mirror episode “The Entire History of You” (lifelogging memory implants) was cited as an early cultural depiction; a participant noted they were already building QS lifelogging hardware at that time.

- A white-paper link was shared covering embryo selection via polygenic scores, reproductive aging, and related topics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT1hgf95phUa4e1nqf2VTfjFmUeSBwb7mihE86cU6bE1EI-EZteWm6UmeC18PJSs3Laog4rP7qKtT1j/pub

- John Ousterhout’s Google talk “A Philosophy of Software Design” was referenced; he attributes Tcl’s decline to its failure to transition to the web (video: https://youtu.be/bmSAYlu0NcY?t=3350).

- A participant is prototyping a p2p GitHub alternative that can run in-browser or as a daemon and is evaluating Tcl vs Lisp as an embedded command language; Lua, Python, and JS were noted as dominant but poor substitutes for command languages.

- Discussion of 180 nm vs 32 nm silicon: 180 nm remains attractive for analog work (lower noise, relaxed optics) and for digital tasks where legacy equipment amortization outweighs the density/power benefits of modern nodes; FPGAs at 32 nm were proposed as a competitive alternative to 180 nm ASICs for digital logic.