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06:17 < harding> sipa: Re: https://medium.com/blockstream/dont-mix-your-timelocks-d9939b665094 I'm guessing http://bitcoin.sipa.be/miniscript/ hasn't been updated?  I tried a policy of thresh(3,after(1),after(500000001),pk(A)) and it returns a miniscript whereas the blog post says it shouldn't return when there are mixed time/height locks.
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09:26 < sipa> harding: yeah, it's not implemented yet there
09:28 < michaelfolkson> Is it worth passing on or sharing this site with someone like Sanket for general maintenance? Still doesn't have https...
09:28  * michaelfolkson ducks
09:28 < harding> sipa: understood.  I was just testing to see what failure looked like anyway.
09:29 < sipa> michaelfolkson: it's on github
09:29 < michaelfolkson> It is? Oh cool
09:30 < sipa> https://github.com/sipa/miniscript
09:30 < michaelfolkson> Thanks
09:34 < michaelfolkson> Has it always been up on GitHub? I swear it wasn't up earlier in the year...
09:36 < sipa> yes     
09:40 < sipa> sanket1729: feel like making the updates for time/height mixing to the c++ code too?
09:40 < sipa> i can look into it, but i'm very busy with other things
10:10 < michaelfolkson> I'm assuming the Miniscript in Core stuff is also taking a backseat until after Taproot work is done (not that this is the only thing that is taking up your personal time obviously)
10:10 < michaelfolkson> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18040
10:11 < sipa> it's more that nobody but me is working on it, and i'm too busy with other things
10:15 < michaelfolkson> Ok maybe I'll see if people like shesek, Jeremy, James C, Alekos etc are interested/have time to push any of this forward
10:18 < michaelfolkson> It is still going need to *some* of your time I suspect. And I don't feel as if that *some* is going to available at least until Taproot is pretty much done
10:19 < sipa> of course
11:12 < sanket1729> sipa: sure
11:14 < sanket1729> I think once rust-miniscript has PR 121 merged(the one for heightlock and timelock), I can update the c++ version
11:15 < sipa> cool
11:35 < sanket1729> Wow, it's been more than a year since we released Miniscript. 
11:35 < sanket1729> I am interested in updating the core PR for miniscript for pushing it forward.
11:36 < sanket1729> I was a bit hesitant because I am not confident of my c++ skills and I am unfamiliar with bitcoin-core repo in general, but I have to do it at some point. 
11:37 < sipa> i'm very happy to review stuff
11:37 < sanket1729> Probably will require more review than usual PRs. 
11:37 < sipa> a big question is how to structure things across two repos
11:37 < sipa> as the current testing is all done thanks to things that are in the core side of things only... which is very suboptimal
11:38 < sanket1729> Do you want to use miniscript/script as a separate library different from core?
11:40 < sipa> hopefully!
11:40 < sipa> perhaps a first priority can be just integrating it in core
11:40 < sipa> but on the other hand, the policy compiler and website aren't things that belong there
11:42 < sipa> i don't expect miniscript c++ to become a library in the sense of being a separately-built and packaged .so file yoi can usefully linked against
11:42 < sipa> but it does aim to be a somewhat reusable piece of code that other projects than core can include
11:42 < sipa> the policy compiler being one of them
11:43 < sanket1729> Then the other library would also abstract out all other script stuff, interpreter too?
11:44 < sanket1729> Because we don't want minsicript library to depend on anything in bitcoin-core then.
11:45 < sanket1729> Anyways, I am caught up with some covenant/checksigfromstack work for the next couple weeks. But I start putting in time after that and bother you later about it. 
11:45 < sipa> the miniscript repo currently has some bitcoin core files copied, others substituted to be independently-compilavle
11:45 < sipa> but perhaps we can just ignore the compiler for a while, and work on getting signing/descriptors miniscriot integrated in core first
11:46 < sipa> and then later on extracting a reusable piece
13:33 < andytoshi> is it correct to model wildcardness in descriptor xpubs as a boolean?
13:34 < andytoshi> like i can have a/b/c/d/* ... but i can't do something like a/b/*/*/* right?
13:34 < sipa> correct
13:34 < andytoshi> because the * represents a linear counter that the wallet is supposed to instantiate somehow
13:34 < andytoshi> ok cool
13:34 < sipa> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/descriptors.md
13:34 < sipa> > Optionally followed by a single /* or /*' final step to denote all (direct) unhardened or hardened children.
13:35 < sipa> and the term used in bitcoin core is "ranged"
13:35 < andytoshi> perfect thanks
14:52 < sanket1729> andytoshi: time to bump rust-miniscript to MSRV 1.29? 
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