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From: Alistair Mann <al@pectw•net>
To: ZmnSCPxj <ZmnSCPxj@protonmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Pre BIP: Solving for spam and other abuse with an HTLB
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2019 16:11:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <119468467.Oh7zB5fVM7@dprfs-d5766> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <HT17PPZYL6SJ91sO2mrEmAZ6RaCoAPBSmF3cphDMx5bqjCFNgbfof5l-TfAS5RsfuyPEV_xUqyJDbfCONeefog8Tz3eLz4NhXGPDiKzTKHg=@protonmail.com>

Many thanks for your thoughts, ZmnSCPxj.

> I believe there is indeed an important usecase for HTLB over HTLC, which is
> to improve the anonymity set. An HTLB over HTLC would be indistinguishable
> onchain from other uses of HTLC; assuming that HTLCs have other uses, this
> is a (small?) plus to privacy.
> 
> Note that the redundant <digest> would have to be given by Alice to Bob,
> since using a standardized one will also reveal use of HTLB over HTLC
> instead of hiding it among other HTLC UTXOs.

Both these are good observations and I'll act on them.
 
> Another thing to improve privacy would be to apply the Funding Transaction
> pattern: https://zmnscpxj.github.io/offchain/generalized.html
<snip>

I've not read of the FTP before; I welcome it, and take on board that it 
improves privacy by keeping a script offline. My first thought is that doesn't 
affect the suggested BIP, so my next update here won't include it. I recognise 
it would improve mainnet use of scripts though, so do expect to return to it.

Cheers,
-- 
Alistair Mann


  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-17 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-11 16:01 Alistair Mann
2019-03-12  4:14 ` ZmnSCPxj
2019-03-17 16:11   ` Alistair Mann [this message]
2019-03-18  4:22     ` ZmnSCPxj
2019-03-17 20:27 ` Alistair Mann
2019-03-19  0:22   ` ZmnSCPxj

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