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From: Tamas Blummer <tamas@bitsofproof•com>
To: Matt Whitlock <bip@mattwhitlock•name>
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] The legal risks of auto-updating wallet software; custodial relationships
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 18:56:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <12ED3204-6F51-4CEC-960C-5771597ACB4D@bitsofproof.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30930479.sqHpaOe3cY@crushinator>


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I am not a lawyer, just thinking loud.
I think that technology is a strong argument before court, but I suspect that it is just that, as of now.

Tamas Blummer
On Jan 20, 2015, at 6:47 PM, Matt Whitlock <bip@mattwhitlock•name> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 6:44 pm, Tamas Blummer wrote:
>> Knowing the private key and owning the linked coins is not necessarily the same in front of a court.
>> 
>> At least in german law there is a difference between ‘Eigentum' means ownership and ‘Besitz’ means ability to deal with it.
>> Being able to deal with an asset does not make you the owner.
> 
> So what we're telling the newbies in /r/bitcoin is plain wrong. Bitcoins *do* have an owner independent from the parties who have access to the private keys that control their disposition. That's pretty difficult to reconcile from a technological perspective.
> 
> 


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-20 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-20 15:46 Peter Todd
     [not found] ` <CAHpxFbEoDLMGKB7arHbgB+4kx8BwgcX7nBUZz6yP9k4LjZeu1A@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-20 17:15   ` Peter Todd
2015-01-20 17:23 ` Matt Whitlock
2015-01-20 17:40   ` Peter Todd
2015-01-20 17:44     ` Matt Whitlock
2015-01-20 17:44   ` Tamas Blummer
2015-01-20 17:47     ` Matt Whitlock
2015-01-20 17:49       ` Peter Todd
2015-01-20 17:56       ` Tamas Blummer [this message]
2015-01-20 17:47 ` Justus Ranvier
2015-01-20 18:48   ` Tamas Blummer
2015-01-20 19:31     ` Justus Ranvier
2015-01-20 21:33     ` odinn
2015-01-20 21:49 ` Roy Badami

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