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From: Tom Zander <tomz@freedommail•ch>
To: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] I do not support the BIP 148 UASF
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 21:20:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1521038.c5zslb6dar@cherry> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgRdSOu8N6L3+fBpnye+rM+W6+F=cePy=9oL4tJuCj=Jsw@mail.gmail.com>

On Friday, 14 April 2017 09:56:31 CEST Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev 
wrote:
> Segwit was carefully engineered so that older unmodified miners could
> continue operating _completely_ without interruption after segwit
> activates.


> They [Older nodes] can
> upgrade to it [segwit] on their own schedule. The only risk 
> non-participating
> miners take after segwit activation is that if someone else mines an
> invalid block they would extend it,

This is false,

a segwit transaction to the miner you describe is an "everyone can spend" 
transaction, and as such a miner that does not validate the segregated area 
in a post-segwit world will be able to create blocks that will not validate 
for segwit miners by including a transaction that spends a SW tx.

This would then lead to a chain-fork as the SW miners reject it and the non-
SW miners continue to mine on it.


-- 
Tom Zander
Blog: https://zander.github.io
Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel


  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-14 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-14  7:56 Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-14 16:50 ` praxeology_guy
2017-04-14 17:36   ` Chris Stewart
2017-04-14 18:33     ` praxeology_guy
2017-04-14 19:12   ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 19:20 ` Tom Zander [this message]
2017-04-14 19:33   ` James Hilliard
2017-04-14 20:34     ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 20:51       ` James Hilliard
2017-04-14 20:58         ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 21:10           ` James Hilliard
2017-04-14 21:12             ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-14 20:59       ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  2:01 ` Steven Pine
2017-04-15  3:05   ` Chris Stewart
2017-04-15  3:29   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  4:10     ` Steven Pine
2017-04-15  4:47       ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  6:28 ` Cameron Garnham
2017-04-15  7:04   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  7:46     ` Chris Acheson
2017-04-15 13:23       ` Natanael
2017-04-15 13:54         ` Greg Sanders
2017-04-15  8:05     ` Cameron Garnham
2017-04-20 18:39 ` shaolinfry
2017-04-25 18:28   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-25 18:46     ` Luke Dashjr
2017-05-02 16:54       ` Erik Aronesty
2017-05-22 19:23 ` Suhas Daftuar
2017-05-23  4:03   ` Steven Pine
2017-05-23  6:30     ` Karl Johan Alm
2017-05-23 12:55       ` Luke Dashjr
2017-05-23 13:20         ` Jorge Timón
2017-05-23  9:47     ` Hampus Sjöberg
2017-04-14 10:52 Chris Acheson
2017-04-15 13:42 Mark Friedenbach
2017-04-15 14:54 ` Ryan Grant
2017-04-15 18:50 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-19 16:17   ` Erik Aronesty
2017-04-20 14:23     ` Alphonse Pace
2017-04-20 15:48       ` Erik Aronesty

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