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From: Johnson Lau <jl2012@xbt•hk>
To: "Tom Zander" <tomz@freedommail•ch>,
	 "bitcoin-dev" <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Start time for BIP141 (segwit)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 03:11:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <157cee7d85f.d54d998f341542.5677728872543901935@xbt.hk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9782389.Gd5V7OpbDZ@strawberry>




 ---- On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 02:54:04 +0800 Tom Zander via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote ---- 

 > Honestly, if the reason for the too-short-for-safety timespan is that you  
 > want to use BIP9, then please take a step back and realize that SegWit is a  
 > contriversial soft-fork that needs to be deployed in a way that is extra  
 > safe because you can't roll the feature back a week after deployment. 
 > All transactions that were made in the mean time turn into everyone-can- 
 > spent transactions. 

No one should use, nor anyone is advised to use, segwit transactions before it is fully activated. Having 2 months or 2 weeks of grace period makes totally no difference in this regard. If anyone tried to use segwit tx during your proposed 2 months grace period, all those txs were still everyone-can-spent.

All you are advocating is just stalling the process with no improvement in security.

 >  
 > I stand by the minimum of 2 months. There is no reason to use BIP9 as it was  
 > coded in an older client. That is an excuse that I don't buy. 
 > --  
 > Tom Zander 
 > Blog: https://zander.github.io 
 > Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel 
 > _______________________________________________ 
 > bitcoin-dev mailing list 
 > bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org 
 > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev 
 > 




  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-16 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-16 14:31 Pieter Wuille
2016-10-16 14:58 ` Tom Zander
2016-10-16 16:35   ` Gavin Andresen
2016-10-16 16:42     ` Tom Zander
2016-10-16 16:57       ` Johnson Lau
2016-10-16 17:04       ` [bitcoin-dev] On the security of soft forks Matt Corallo
2016-10-16 16:42     ` [bitcoin-dev] Start time for BIP141 (segwit) Eric Voskuil
2016-10-16 16:47     ` Douglas Roark
2016-10-16 18:20       ` Tom Zander
2016-10-16 18:41         ` Jorge Timón
2016-10-16 18:54           ` Tom Zander
2016-10-16 19:11             ` Johnson Lau [this message]
2016-10-16 20:08               ` Tom Zander
2016-10-17  3:46                 ` Johnson Lau
2016-10-16 19:35         ` [bitcoin-dev] (no subject) Matt Corallo
2016-10-16 20:45           ` Tom Zander
2016-10-17 13:13             ` Btc Drak
2016-10-16 19:49         ` [bitcoin-dev] Start time for BIP141 (segwit) Douglas Roark
2016-10-16 20:58           ` Tom Zander
2016-10-16 21:03             ` gb
2016-10-16 21:08             ` Marek Palatinus
2016-10-16 21:19             ` Andrew C
2016-10-17 11:17               ` Tom Zander
2016-10-17 13:09                 ` Peter Todd
2016-10-17 13:19                 ` Andrew C
2016-10-17 13:27                   ` Btc Drak
2016-10-17 13:31                 ` Jorge Timón
2016-10-16 20:14         ` Btc Drak
2016-10-16 16:08 ` Chris Belcher
2016-10-16 17:52 ` Matt Corallo
2016-10-16 21:49 ` Peter Todd

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