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From: Sjors Provoost <sjors@sprovoost•nl>
To: Bitcoin Development Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com>
Cc: PandaCute <pandacute12345678@gmail•com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Relax OP_RETURN standardness restrictions
Date: Fri, 2 May 2025 13:16:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1B78AC90-E698-421F-AECD-32DBCDD8669A@sprovoost.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68cdce0e-9030-4a6b-92a4-d48d05be3e80n@googlegroups.com>

Op 2 mei 2025, om 02:14 heeft PandaCute <pandacute12345678@gmail•com> het volgende geschreven:

> It feels weird—like some sort of attack or a bribe. One protocol is mentioned that would benefit from this change, and then an investor ACKs the PR. 

This is a misunderstanding. One that probably should have been better communicated, because I can see why it creates a bad impression.

The Citrea protocol does not benefit from this change at all! We're just asking them nicely to please use OP_RETURN and not bloat the UTXO set.

The cost difference between OP_RETURN and fake public keys is negligible for them. I try to explain this in more detail here:

https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/126208/why-would-anyone-use-op-return-over-inscriptions-aside-from-fees

We can only hope they do so, but why would they?  They already wrote the code, and now they have to spend engineering hours to deviate from their whitepaper design. For what, just to be a good citizen? Their developers are getting attacked for agreeing with this change. And since the proposal is controversial, they can't even count on this actually going through in time for whenever they want to launch.

As someone once said: we don't have the cards here.

- Sjors


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  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-02 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-17 18:52 'Antoine Poinsot' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-04-18 12:03 ` Sjors Provoost
2025-04-18 12:54   ` Greg Sanders
2025-04-18 13:06     ` Vojtěch Strnad
2025-04-18 13:29     ` 'Antoine Poinsot' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-04-18 21:34       ` Antoine Riard
2025-04-20  8:43 ` Peter Todd
2025-04-26  9:50 ` Luke Dashjr
2025-04-26 10:53   ` Sjors Provoost
2025-04-26 11:35     ` Luke Dashjr
2025-04-26 11:45       ` Sjors Provoost
2025-04-26 12:48       ` Pieter Wuille
2025-04-28 16:20         ` Jason Hughes (wk057)
2025-04-29 14:51           ` Sjors Provoost
2025-04-30 15:37             ` Nagaev Boris
2025-04-30 16:30               ` Sjors Provoost
2025-04-29 19:20           ` Martin Habovštiak
2025-04-30  0:10             ` Jason Hughes
2025-05-01 17:40               ` Andrew Toth
2025-04-30  5:39             ` Chris Guida
2025-04-30 16:37               ` Anthony Towns
2025-05-01  4:57                 ` Chris Guida
2025-05-01 19:33                   ` Nagaev Boris
2025-05-02  6:34                   ` Anthony Towns
2025-05-01  3:01         ` Anthony Towns
2025-05-01 22:40 ` [bitcoindev] " 'Antoine Poinsot' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-05-02  0:14   ` PandaCute
2025-05-02 11:16     ` Sjors Provoost [this message]
2025-05-02 14:37       ` [bitcoindev] " 'nsvrn' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-05-02 16:43         ` Greg Maxwell
2025-05-02 13:58     ` [bitcoindev] " Bob Burnett
2025-05-02 20:03   ` [bitcoindev] Removing OP_Return restrictions: Devil's Advocate Position Peter Todd
2025-05-02 22:58     ` [bitcoindev] " Greg Maxwell
2025-05-02  6:29 ` [bitcoindev] Re: Relax OP_RETURN standardness restrictions Greg Maxwell
2025-05-02  9:51   ` Anthony Towns
2025-05-02 17:36     ` Greg Maxwell
2025-05-02 20:43     ` Peter Todd
2025-05-02 19:04   ` /dev /fd0
2025-05-02 20:10     ` Peter Todd

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