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From: Matt Corallo <lf-lists@mattcorallo•com>
To: Sjors Provoost <sjors@sprovoost•nl>,
	Bitcoin Development Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com>
Cc: Jameson Lopp <jameson.lopp@gmail•com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Against Allowing Quantum Recovery of Bitcoin
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 16:00:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1c7817fa-6451-4256-b8ce-ddca45abbf52@mattcorallo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <27A7048A-88D3-432A-AD7C-07C5EC60942D@sprovoost.nl>



On 3/25/25 4:16 AM, Sjors Provoost wrote:
> Matt Corallo wrote:
> 
>>> In that scenario you'd need to use a NUMS point for the key path. Or maybe that's unsafe, in which case we'd need a new Taproot version without key path support (or BIP360). That's also not a difficult soft fork, but now again you have something that only a small set of users will want to use.
>>>>
>>>>
>> A NUMS point does not suffice unless we explicitly soft-fork out spending from that NUMS point (which is, of course, doable).
> 
> This could be a solution to the sequencing conundrum that I tried to explain.
> 
> Along with the first PCQ scheme for tapscript (script path), we could have a soft that disables one or more NUMS points. The latter has zero effect under the current cryptographic assumptions, so it's not confiscatory.
> 
> That way people can start using the scheme without having to worry about whether the community decides to freeze key path spending in time. They'll still worry about the market value of their coins, but not about whether they're going to be the first victim (or the umpteenth victim while everyone is in denial and blames them for poor key management).


Mmm, yea, fair enough, that seems perfectly reasonable to include.

Matt

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-29  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-16 14:15 Jameson Lopp
2025-03-16 18:03 ` Chris Riley
2025-03-16 19:44 ` Nagaev Boris
2025-03-16 21:25   ` Jameson Lopp
2025-03-16 22:56 ` IdeA
2025-03-17 13:28   ` Jameson Lopp
2025-03-17 12:00 ` Matt Corallo
2025-03-18 12:48   ` Sjors Provoost
2025-03-25  1:06     ` Matt Corallo
2025-03-25  8:16       ` Sjors Provoost
2025-03-28 20:00         ` Matt Corallo [this message]
2025-03-30 22:23           ` Javier Mateos
2025-03-22 19:02 AstroTown
2025-03-24 11:19 ` Agustin Cruz

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