Hello, Here's a scenario (it's contrived to make the players easy to identify, more likely this would be low value automated vendors): Two scammers get together to buy two Ferraris using only one set of BTC. They travel to opposite ends of the world to two car dealerships that accept bitcoins without waiting for confirmations. They are in contact by mobile. They each buy the car and come to pay. At exactly the same moment, they both spend the same coins. They both walk away with a car. The current solution is the recommendation that vendors wait for six confirmations before releasing goods. That's a long time though; more than most would be willing to wait. Some points: - The bitcoin network is essentially honest - If a block chain fork happens, the transactions that are orphaned get added to the pending transaction list again, meaning ... - A valid transaction will _eventually_ make it into the (longest) block chain. - Actual distribution time for a transaction through the network is in the order of seconds not minutes - A double spend attempt has to enter the network near simulateously at different places, otherwise the second spend will be rejected instantly by the whole network. New transactions propagate through the network if they are found to be valid. If they aren't valid, they are silently dropped. In the event of a double spend attempt one of those transactions goes to (say) half the network, the other goes to the other half. Whichever one reaches a node first is seen as the real one, the second being seen as invalid. One or other of these will therefore end up in the "longest" chain; but there is no way to know which. Here's my proposal then: when a node drops a transaction, it should not be silent. It should be broadcast just as it always was going to be had it been valid. Only it is broadcast with a new "inv" type, let's say "MSG_DOUBLESPEND" instead of "MSG_TX". Now run the Ferrari test again. The vendor sees the transaction that pays for the car appear near instantly (within the propagation time of the network). A short while later they also see a MSG_DOUBLESPEND of the same coins that they have just accepted. They can then operate whatever policy they want: wait for six, ten, twenty confirmations. Call the police. Whatever. Miners can also significantly lower the priority of any transactions that get flagged in this way. When there isn't a double spend attempt message within the network propagation time, they can be sure that their transaction is the one that miners are working on, and they'll eventually get their money. In other words, they can accept the payment on zero confirmations. At first I was concerned that this would make it possible to DOS a transaction, but of course it doesn't -- the transaction has to be internally- valid to result in a MSG_DOUBLESPEND, meaning it can only be DOSed by someone with the appropriate private keys. Andy -- Dr Andy Parkins andyparkins@gmail.com