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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
To: "Jorge Timón" <jtimon@monetize•io>
Cc: Bitcoin Development <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] To prevent arbitrary data storage in txouts — The Ultimate Solution
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 07:27:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130411112708.GA1006@savin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC1+kJOM=QrK4w5O-sqH=CV30v7KCxBZPBS9c+p12XK5UsJ2iw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 05:58:10PM +0200, Jorge Timón wrote:
> On 4/10/13, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org> wrote:
> > Oh, and while we're at it, long-term (hard-fork) it'd be good to change
> > the tx hash algorithm to extend the merkle tree into the txouts/txins
> > itself, which means that to prove a given txout exists you only need to
> > provide it, rather than the full tx.
> >
> > Currently pruning can't prune a whole tx until every output is spent.
> > Make that change and we can prune tx's bit by bit, and still be able to
> > serve nodes requesting proof of their UTXO without making life difficult
> > for anyone trying to spent old UTXO's. The idea is also part of UTXO
> > proof stuff anyway.
> 
> I thought about this before, I like the idea very much.
> Would such a fork be controversial for anyone?
> Would anyone oppose to this for some reason I'm missing?

You mean https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137933.0 ?

I would oppose it, and I wrote the above proposal. The code required to
implement UTXO fraud proofs is more complex than the entire Bitcoin code
base; obviously that much new fork-critical code opens up huge technical
risks. As an example, can you think of how UTXO fraud proofs can cause
an arbitrarily deep re-org?

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'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-11 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-10  2:53 Gregory Maxwell
2013-04-10  3:03 ` Peter Todd
2013-04-10  3:08   ` Peter Todd
2013-04-10 15:58     ` Jorge Timón
2013-04-11 11:27       ` Peter Todd [this message]
2013-04-10  6:53   ` Peter Todd
2013-04-10  7:15     ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-04-10  7:29       ` Peter Todd
2013-04-10  3:52 ` Robert Backhaus
2013-04-10  3:58   ` Gregory Maxwell

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