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From: Andy Parkins <andyparkins@gmail•com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@exmulti•com>
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: Service bits for pruned nodes
Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 15:05:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201305011505.03860.andyparkins@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+8xBpfUVsX5CrJMrJRks4pa5g2Sko41cMXewYfvw_ZrPcxeQg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday 30 April 2013 21:11:47 Jeff Garzik wrote:

> Hardly.  The storage format is bitcoin protocol wire format, plus a
> tiny header.  It is supported in multiple applications already, and is
> the most efficient storage format for bitcoin protocol blocks.

"Most efficient" for what purpose?  There is more that one might do than just 
duplicate bitcoind exactly.  I can well imagine storing bitcoin blocks parsed 
and separated out into database fields.

> > Wouldn't it be better to add support for more bitcoin-protocol-oriented
> > HTTP requests?  Then any client can supply the same interface, rather
> > than being forced to create blkNNNN.dat on the fly?
> 
> You don't have to create anything on the fly, if you store blocks in
> their native P2P wire protocol format.

If.  What if I'm writing a client and don't want to store them the way 
bitcoind has?

> This is a whole new client interface.  It's fun to dream this up, but
> it is far outside the scope of an efficient HTTP protocol that
> downloads blocks.

Except the alternative is no schema at all -- essentially it's just give 
access to a file on disk.  Well, that hardly needs discussion at all, and it 
hardly needs the involvement of bitcoind, apache could do it right now.

> Your proposal is closer to a full P2P rewrite over HTTP (or a proxy
> thereof).

I don't think it's a "rewrite".  The wire protocol is only a small part of 
what bitcoind does.  Adding another thread listening for HTTP requests at the 
same time as on 8333 for stadnard format.

Anyway -- I've obviously misunderstood what the idea behind a HTTP protocol 
was, and it's not like I was volunteering to do any of the work ;-)



Andy

-- 
Dr Andy Parkins
andyparkins@gmail•com



  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-01 14:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-28 15:51 [Bitcoin-development] " Pieter Wuille
2013-04-28 16:29 ` Mike Hearn
2013-04-28 16:44   ` Pieter Wuille
2013-04-28 16:57     ` Mike Hearn
2013-05-03 12:30       ` Pieter Wuille
2013-05-03 14:06         ` Mike Hearn
2013-05-03 14:18           ` Peter Todd
2013-05-03 15:02             ` Mike Hearn
2013-05-03 15:11               ` Peter Todd
2013-05-04 18:07                 ` John Dillon
2013-05-04 18:55                   ` Jeff Garzik
2013-05-05 13:12                     ` John Dillon
2013-05-06  8:19                       ` Mike Hearn
2013-05-06 13:13                         ` Pieter Wuille
2013-04-28 19:50   ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-04-29  2:57     ` John Dillon
2013-04-29  3:36       ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-04-29  3:42         ` Robert Backhaus
2013-04-29  3:48         ` John Dillon
2013-04-29  3:55           ` Peter Todd
2013-04-29  6:10             ` Jay F
     [not found]               ` <CAFBxzACw=G7UgG853zQrM-Z1-B4VqSQR5YUJQ5n1=wnv7EyWsw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-04-30 16:14                 ` [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: " Rebroad (sourceforge)
2013-04-30 18:04                   ` Jeff Garzik
2013-04-30 19:27                     ` Andy Parkins
2013-04-30 19:31                       ` Simon Barber
2013-04-30 20:11                       ` Jeff Garzik
2013-05-01 14:05                         ` Andy Parkins [this message]
2013-05-01 14:26                           ` Jeff Garzik
2013-05-01 14:34                             ` Andy Parkins
2013-04-30 20:06                     ` [Bitcoin-development] " Brenton Camac
2013-05-01 13:46 ` Jeff Garzik

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