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From: "Luke-Jr" <luke@dashjr•org>
To: bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] is there a way to do bitcoin-staging?
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 07:12:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201305200712.19206.luke@dashjr.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130519132359.GA12366@netbook.cypherspace.org>

This sounds similar to the "bitcoin2" branch I created a while back - 
basically a "next"-like branch, but for hardforking changes that refused to 
run without the -testnet option. There's so much non-hardforking code that can 
be written/tested, at this point, that I think it was and maybe is premature 
to be writing hardforking code outside of necessity. But perhaps if you want 
to play around, it might be a good starting point (it can probably merge up to 
latest master, and trivial to rebase if not).

On Sunday, May 19, 2013 1:23:59 PM Adam Back wrote:
> Is there a way to experiment with new features - eg committed coins - that
> doesnt involve an altcoin in the conventional sense, and also doesnt impose
> a big testing burden on bitcoin main which is a security and testing risk?
> 
> eg lets say some form of merged mine where an alt-coin lets call it
> bitcoin-staging?  where the coins are the same coins as on bitcoin, the
> mining power goes to bitcoin main, so some aspect of merged mining, but no
> native mining.  and ability to use bitcoins by locking them on bitcoin to
> move them to bitcoin-staging and vice versa (ie exchange them 1:1
> cryptographically, no exchange).
> 
> Did anyone figure anything like that out?  Seems vaguely doable and
> maybe productive.  The only people with coins at risk of defects in a new
> feature, or insufficiently well tested novel feature are people with coins
> on bitcoin-staging.
> 
> Yes I know about bitcoin-test this is not it.  I mean a real live system,
> with live value, but that is intentionally wanting to avoid forking
> bitcoins parameters, nor value, nor mindshare dillution.  In this way
> something potentially interesting could move forward faster, and be les
> risky to the main bitcoin network.  eg particularly defenses against
> 
> It might also be a more real world test test (after bitcoin-test) because
> some parameters are different on test, and some issues may not manifest
> without more real activity.
> 
> Then also bitcoin could cherry pick interesting patches and merge them
> after extensive real-world validation with real-money at stake (by early
> adopters).
> 
> Adam
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-05-20  7:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-19 13:23 Adam Back
2013-05-19 15:08 ` Peter Vessenes
2013-05-20  6:34   ` Alan Reiner
2013-10-14 18:08     ` Adam Back
2013-10-14 18:21       ` Jeff Garzik
2013-11-21 20:22       ` coinscoins
2013-11-21 20:35       ` Melvin Carvalho
2013-11-21 21:11         ` [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin 1.x & 0.x in parallel (Re: is there a way to do bitcoin-staging?) Adam Back
2014-03-16 22:58       ` [Bitcoin-development] 2-way pegging " Adam Back
2014-03-16 23:22         ` Jorge Timón
2014-03-17 15:55         ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-10-14 18:43     ` [Bitcoin-development] is there a way to do bitcoin-staging? Michael Gronager
2013-10-14 20:20       ` Alan Reiner
2013-05-22  3:37   ` zooko
2013-05-22  4:12     ` Jeff Garzik
2013-05-20  7:12 ` Luke-Jr [this message]
2013-06-13 13:39 ` Adam Back
2013-06-14 19:20   ` Peter Todd
2013-06-14 20:50     ` Adam Back
2013-06-14 21:10       ` Luke-Jr
2013-06-14 21:25         ` Andreas Petersson
2013-06-15  0:09           ` Dennison Bertram
2013-06-15  1:57             ` Luke-Jr
2013-06-15  8:43               ` Dennison Bertram
2013-06-15 11:18 ` Melvin Carvalho
2013-06-15 13:26   ` Dennison Bertram
2013-06-16 15:46     ` Dennison Bertram

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