From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
To: Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail•com>
Cc: Ittay Eyal <ittay.eyal@cornell•edu>,
Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Auto-generated miner backbone
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 09:46:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131104144631.GA2395@petertodd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPg+sBiOP_cgDXb5vkM-BYEd_Sf7DKeWrwf-67p4dx_a3n8r0g@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 03:34:35PM +0100, Pieter Wuille wrote:
> > Mining strategy is now to mine to extend the first block you see, on the
> > assumption that the earlier one probably propagated to a large portion
> > of the total hashing power. But as you receive "near-blocks" that are
> > under the PoW target, use them to estimate the hashing power on each
> > fork, and if it looks like you are not on the majority side, switch.
>
> Doesn't that mean that by selective blocking these near-PoW headers,
> you can bias peers into preferring to mine on those with near-PoW
> headers, turning the attack around? Of course, because of their size,
> headers are likely much harder to slow down (in propagation speed)
> than full blocks...
Remember that the attack described in the paper *doesn't* depend on the
ability to selectively block or even just slow down anything - it works
even on a unlimited bandwidth jam-free network so long as latency is
non-zero.
As for other possible attacks, if you can selectively block or slow down
certain near-target headers you haven't achieved anything novel. Why not
use that ability to block or slow down blocks themselves? Even if you
did block some PoW headers for whatever reason the original purpose of
broadcasting them - getting all hashing power to work to extend the same
block - is still achieved.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-04 14:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-04 11:26 Mike Hearn
2013-11-04 11:53 ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 12:00 ` Mike Hearn
2013-11-04 18:16 ` [Bitcoin-development] Committing to extra block data/a better merge-mine standard Peter Todd
2013-11-04 18:32 ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 19:11 ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-11-15 22:06 ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 19:38 ` Mike Hearn
2013-11-04 19:53 ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-11-04 20:10 ` Mike Hearn
2013-11-04 11:58 ` [Bitcoin-development] Auto-generated miner backbone Michael Gronager
2013-11-04 12:03 ` Mike Hearn
2013-11-04 12:20 ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 12:40 ` Michael Gronager
2013-11-04 15:58 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-11-04 14:26 ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 14:34 ` Pieter Wuille
2013-11-04 14:46 ` Peter Todd [this message]
[not found] ` <CABT1wWm1NzKSS9H=Qh3Z6pFmNHbOFKC12WaE=b3kE0mNsRgfmw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-04 15:04 ` Peter Todd
[not found] ` <CABT1wWmONUeOWRg-=FKr88bgBQf0un4bvjYW2h8d-10ys-VKtA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-04 15:46 ` Peter Todd
[not found] ` <CABT1wWmM466jWWdWAo5GmzP58xJFT70Vcr74ta+2QF2fWT+1SA@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-04 16:07 ` Peter Todd
[not found] ` <CABT1wWm5BDZf7U40pOqZvTqdOKeTWUTekjUNckq5McMV=LDu_g@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-04 16:51 ` Peter Todd
[not found] ` <CABT1wWmwb17b4ACHMmDKqd94tUSKsvwAPx344mZ0VS+47myeWg@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-04 21:04 ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 21:45 ` Alan Reiner
2013-11-04 22:03 ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 15:27 ` Mike Hearn
2013-11-04 17:36 ` Peter Todd
2013-11-04 15:51 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-11-05 4:14 Gustaw Wieczorek
2013-11-05 4:39 ` Peter Todd
2013-11-05 6:37 ` Gregory Maxwell
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