From: Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@hozed•org>
To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Dedicated server for bitcoin.org, your thoughts?
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 23:45:15 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140103054515.GL3180@nl.grid.coop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgTmWRMxYweu3sNn_X7grgjUqTQujM-DbZRxG_YMZnD=7g@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 05:48:06AM -0800, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Drak <drak@zikula•org> wrote:
> > The NSA has the ability, right now to change every download of bitcoin-qt,
> > on the fly and the only cure is encryption.
No, the only cure is the check the hashes. We should know something
about hashes here. TLS is a big pile of 'too big to audit'. Spend
a couple of satoshis and put the hash of the source tar.gz and the
binaries in the blockchain. Problem solved.
<snipped>
> The downloads are protected by something far stronger than SSL
> already, which might even have a chance against the NSA. Actual
> signatures of the downloads with offline keys.
>
> I'm all pro-SSL and all that, but you are— piece by piece— really
> convincing me that it produces an entirely false sense of security
> which is entirely unjustified.
I used to think encryption was important, and this exchange convinced
me that kerberized telnet with no encryption but with integrity
checking would be far more secure than 'secure' shell.
Also, there's some organization that's inserting malicious memes
that try to get me to buy shit below my signature. How about we
move the mailing list? I've run mailman servers before, and there's
also http://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/WhyChooseSavannah/
-- Troy (da hozer)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-03 5:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-12-08 1:17 Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 3:38 ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-12-08 9:03 ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 12:37 ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 19:16 ` Drak
2013-12-08 19:25 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 20:28 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-08 20:40 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 20:51 ` Drak
2013-12-08 21:01 ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 21:11 ` Drak
2013-12-08 23:51 ` theymos
2013-12-09 0:06 ` Taylor Gerring
2013-12-09 6:29 ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-09 10:54 ` Roy Badami
2013-12-10 9:18 ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-12-08 21:09 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 21:16 ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 21:58 ` Roy Badami
2013-12-08 23:03 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-09 5:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2013-12-08 22:44 ` Gavin Andresen
2013-12-08 23:48 ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 23:18 ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 23:29 ` Patrick
2013-12-08 21:46 ` Mark Friedenbach
2013-12-08 20:40 ` Drak
2013-12-08 20:50 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 21:07 ` Drak
2013-12-08 21:14 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 22:27 ` Robert McKay
2013-12-12 20:51 ` Adam Back
2013-12-31 13:39 ` Drak
2013-12-31 13:48 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-31 13:59 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-31 14:18 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-31 14:23 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-31 21:25 ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-31 21:33 ` Matt Corallo
2014-01-01 10:02 ` Jeremy Spilman
2014-01-01 11:37 ` Wladimir
2014-01-01 15:10 ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-01 22:15 ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-02 19:49 ` Jorge Timón
2013-12-31 14:05 ` Benjamin Cordes
2014-01-03 5:45 ` Troy Benjegerdes [this message]
2014-01-03 9:59 ` Drak
2014-01-03 11:22 ` Tier Nolan
2014-01-03 13:09 ` Adam Back
2014-01-03 17:38 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-01-03 18:21 ` Jorge Timón
2014-01-04 1:43 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2013-12-08 10:00 ` Drak
2013-12-08 12:39 ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 16:51 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 16:08 ` Wladimir
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