From: Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@hozed•org>
To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail•com>
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] MtGox blames bitcoin
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:25:06 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140210182506.GM3180@nl.grid.coop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgQjKHK4ReQOEtLsTt9KOLxT4G-MiZJ7UKU=qH9ifpuN8g@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 08:45:03AM -0800, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Troy Benjegerdes <hozer@hozed•org> wrote:
> > Name me one single person with commit access to the bitcoin github repository
> > who is *independent* of any venture capital or other 'investment' connections.
>
> I am, unless you count the fact that I own some Bitcoin and some
> mining hardware as "'investment' connections" (and that case your
> comments are worthless).
>
> (By not naming anyone else I don't mean to imply there are no others,
> but I don't want to speak for anyone else. Nor would I necessarily
> expect the other part(ies|y) to step forward, since this mostly
> appears to be an invitation to step up and be attacked.)
Thank you.
I also appreciate your commentary[1], and willingness to list your investment
position. What I'm concerned about are people who have signed non-disclosure
agreements or who's salary/equity/whatever depend on people who are experts
at manipulating markets to take naive investors money.
Independent is also a state of mind as much as it is about financial connections.
What pisses me off here is that a huge amount of wealth just changed hands based
on MtGox's press release, and it stinks of insider trading. I still maintain the
best outcome would be for MtGox to AGPLv3 release their code, and then those of
us that understand it would be able to have a public technical discussion about
how to fix it, and MtGox would still maintain their intellectual property
ownership position.
This, however, cuts off a significant revenue stream for people who take money
making market bets 5 minutes before the information goes public, so I expect
the likelyhood of such an outbreak of sanity is quite low.
[1] http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/10/mt-gox-blames-bitcoin-core-developer-greg-maxwell-responds/
DISCLAIMER: I have a significant emotional investment in copyleft/viral copyright
development models, and I expect to take a lot of money charging people to write
code I give away for free. I also occasionally make money from cryptocurrency
mining, but only when I can sell it in functional and transparent markets.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-10 18:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-10 11:28 Drak
2014-02-10 11:54 ` sickpig
2014-02-10 12:25 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-02-10 14:40 ` Isidor Zeuner
2014-02-10 16:30 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-02-10 16:45 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-02-10 18:25 ` Troy Benjegerdes [this message]
2014-02-10 18:45 ` Jameson Lopp
2014-02-10 18:53 ` Gavin Andresen
2014-02-10 19:07 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-02-10 19:23 ` Peter Todd
2014-02-10 19:30 ` naman naman
2014-02-10 19:40 ` Peter Todd
[not found] ` <52F9377D.9010405@gmail.com>
2014-02-11 20:42 ` naman naman
2014-02-11 20:49 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-02-11 20:56 ` naman naman
2014-02-13 12:20 ` naman naman
2014-02-10 16:49 ` Drak
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