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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
To: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
Cc: Bitcoin Development <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>,
	Jeremy Spilman <jeremy.spilman@gmail•com>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Eliminating double-spends with two-party self-escrow for high value transactions
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 15:37:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140426193759.GC16440@savin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140426183119.GB16440@savin>

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On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 02:31:19PM -0400, Peter Todd wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 08:07:58PM +0200, Mike Hearn wrote:
> > What stops the buyer just always waiting to get their money back?
> 
> The seller won't hand over the goods of course until they have a valid
> transaction signed by the buyer sending them the escrowed funds. (and
> the nLockTime deadline is sufficiently far away that the probability of
> not being able to get the transaction mined in time is low)
> 
> Note how the mechanism I'm proposing is basically just a Jeremy
> Spilman-style micropayment channel(1) used for a single payment; I
> should have made that clear in my original post.
> 
> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg02028.html

I swear, I'm getting alzheimers or something. This and stealth addresses
is now the second time I've totally forgotten I had just read an idea a
week prior:

Reddit user RubenSomsen, ten days ago:

"I would really like it if Mycelium allowed me to temporarily lock my
bitcoins in a 2-of-2 transaction with a potential buyer (of course with
nlocktime back to myself) so the network can start confirming the
transaction before we even meet."
-http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/236k5d/mycelium_local_trader_is_now_available/cgtxede

Better explanation than mine too for someone wanting a quick intro.

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-26 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-26 11:23 Peter Todd
2014-04-26 18:07 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-26 18:31   ` Peter Todd
2014-04-26 18:51     ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-26 19:37     ` Peter Todd [this message]

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