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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
To: Adam Back <adam@cypherspace•org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>,
	libbitcoin@lists•dyne.org
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] On Rewriting Bitcoin (was Re: [Libbitcoin] Satoshi client: is a fork past 0.10 possible?)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 12:11:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150215171100.GC21269@savin.petertodd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALqxMTFDVfOai0Y=O7UWrk5pk5pWSMz+FGedJngEZ-V=bDjGTg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 11:04:49AM -0800, Adam Back wrote:
> Strongly with Peter on this.  That its highly complex to maintain strict
> consensus between bitcoin versions, does not justify consensus rewrite
> experiments; it tells you that the risk is exponentially worse and people
> should use and rally around libconsensus.

It's worth remembering that one of the goals in writing - or to be more
precise, separating - libconsensus from the Bitcoin Core codebase is to
make it easier to maintain strict consensus between Bitcoin Core
versions.

> I would advise any bitcoin ecosystem part, wallet, user to not use software
> with consensus protocol rw-writes nor variants, you WILL lose money.
> 
> You could view bitcoin as a digital signature algorithm speculatively
> tinkering with the algo is highly prone to binary failure mode and
> unbounded funds loss.
> 
> Want to be clear this is not a political nor emotive issue. It is a
> critical technical requirement for security if users of software people
> write.

The necessity of it isn't a political or emotive issue, but the
consequences are definitely political. Just not in the way that most of
the ecosystem appears to think.

-- 
'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-15 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]               ` <CABm2gDoS+XOR7Ugt91kNWNdvwsb1_Zb-aO0sma_Xps2Sx-0N5g@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <54DF2E80.5060506@voskuil.org>
2015-02-14 13:13                   ` Peter Todd
2015-02-14 14:23                     ` Tamas Blummer
2015-02-14 19:04                       ` Adam Back
2015-02-14 19:29                         ` Bryan Bishop
2015-02-15 17:11                         ` Peter Todd [this message]
2015-02-14 20:00                       ` Jorge Timón
2015-02-15  0:05                       ` Luke Dashjr
2015-02-15 17:02                       ` Peter Todd
2015-02-15 17:13                         ` Tamas Blummer
2015-02-15 17:21                           ` Peter Todd
2015-02-15 21:48                           ` joliver
2015-02-19  3:32                           ` Troy Benjegerdes
2015-02-19  3:44                             ` Peter Todd
2015-02-19  5:22                               ` Tamas Blummer
2015-02-19  5:27                                 ` Tamas Blummer
2015-02-19 14:03                                 ` Bryan Bishop
2015-02-19 14:09                                   ` Tamas Blummer
2015-02-19 17:16                                     ` Jorge Timón
2015-02-19 17:30                                       ` Mike Hearn
2015-02-19 21:43                                         ` Sean Gilligan
2015-02-19 22:53                                           ` Angel Leon
2015-02-20  3:47                                         ` Jorge Timón
     [not found]                     ` <54EE17DD.7050309@voskuil.org>
2015-03-25  8:04                       ` Eric Voskuil

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