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From: jl2012@xbt•hk
To: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP: Short Term Use Addresses for Scalability
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 04:55:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150723045546.Horde.KiM4VIQqwnFJ3lwdFrO-2w3@server47.web-hosting.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABsx9T21i_onZcj=zcY=rvbxQtVUh=cW-TYxYNqwxcFxA5hKvQ@mail.gmail.com>


Quoting Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev  
<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>:

> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Tier Nolan via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> It also requires most clients to be updated to support the new address
>> system.
>
>
> That's the killer: introducing Yet Another Type of Bitcoin Address takes a
> very long time and requires a lot of people to change their code. At least,
> that was the lesson learned when we introduced P2SH addresses.
>
> I think it's just not worth it for a very modest space savings (10 bytes,
> when scriptSig+scriptPubKey is about 120 bytes), especially with the
> extreme decrease in security (going from 2^160 to 2^80 to brute-force).
>
> --
> --
> Gavin Andresen

I think it would only save ~5% with all overhead (value, sequence,  
locktime, version, etc.) counted

A better way is to introduce shorter ECDSA keys, which will save a lot  
of space for public key and signature. It is safe as long as the  
output value is much lower than the cost of attack.

If this happens, I think it will be part of the OP_MAST which will  
require a new address type anyway.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-23  4:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-22 20:15 Jeremy Rubin
2015-07-22 20:34 ` Tier Nolan
2015-07-22 21:06   ` Gavin Andresen
2015-07-23  4:05     ` Jeremy Rubin
2015-07-23  4:55     ` jl2012 [this message]
2015-07-23  6:05       ` Jeremy Rubin

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