On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 05:18:02PM +0000, Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev wrote: > On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Oliver Egginger via bitcoin-dev > wrote: > > To avoid such discussions. > > You seem to be assuming that there is specific reason to believe the > message is unauthentic. This is not the case. > > Contrary to other poster's claims, if the message had been PGP signed > that might, in fact, have arguably been weak evidence that it was > unauthentic: no message from the system's creator that I (or > apparently anyone) was aware of was ever signed with that key. > A focus on the content is especially relevant because one of the core > messages in the content is a request to eschew arguments from > authority; which is perhaps the greatest challenge here: How can the > founder of a system speak up to ask people to reject that kind of > argument without implicitly endorsing that approach through their own > act? Something I only recently realised is that Satoshi's apparent policy(1) of never making any cryptographically secure signatures to link together his posts - or indeed any communication at all - fits well with the avoidance of creating a central authority figure. Currently every single thing Satoshi ever apparently wrote can only be linked together by trusting third parties - email archives could have been hacked, bitcointalk might have fake messages, etc. Obviously in practice we have reasonable assurance that the same person or group was behind most of the messages we now consider to be "from Satoshi", but ultimately strictly speaking we can only take each message individually, for the arguments contained within. As you've often said, the biggest achievement by Satoshi in the creation of Bitcoin was to create a system where the identity of the creator is a mere historical footnote. We can probably go further, and state that while doing so, Satoshi quite counter-intuitively took steps to avoid even creating a pseudoanonymous identity. 1) "Does anyone have anything at all signed by Satoshi's PGP key?", Peter Todd, Sept 13, 2014, Bitcoin-development mailing list, http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2014-September/006606.html -- 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 00000000000000000402fe6fb9ad613c93e12bddfc6ec02a2bd92f002050594d