* [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode
@ 2015-09-05 14:11 Ken Shirriff
2015-09-05 14:26 ` Theo Chino
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From: Ken Shirriff @ 2015-09-05 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-dev
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Use of the bitcoin symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin
symbol isn't in the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a proposal
to have the common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode.
I've successfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm
familiar with the process and think this has a good chance of succeeding.
The proposal is at http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf
I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-dev group, so I
hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin developers will
help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of adding this symbol, so
please let me know if you support this proposal.
Thanks,
Ken
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* Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode
2015-09-05 14:11 [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode Ken Shirriff
@ 2015-09-05 14:26 ` Theo Chino
2015-09-05 14:58 ` Richard Moore
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From: Theo Chino @ 2015-09-05 14:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ken Shirriff; +Cc: Bitcoin Dev
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Ken,
What do I do to second and join you ?
Theo Chino
New York
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Use of the bitcoin symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin
> symbol isn't in the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a proposal
> to have the common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode.
> I've successfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm
> familiar with the process and think this has a good chance of succeeding.
> The proposal is at http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf
>
> I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-dev group, so
> I hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin developers
> will help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of adding this
> symbol, so please let me know if you support this proposal.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
>
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* Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode
2015-09-05 14:11 [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode Ken Shirriff
2015-09-05 14:26 ` Theo Chino
@ 2015-09-05 14:58 ` Richard Moore
2015-09-05 18:48 ` Andreas Schildbach
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From: Richard Moore @ 2015-09-05 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ken Shirriff; +Cc: bitcoin-dev
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This might also be a useful page to look at:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_symbol
RicMoo
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> On Sep 5, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> Use of the bitcoin symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin symbol isn't in the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a proposal to have the common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode. I've successfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm familiar with the process and think this has a good chance of succeeding. The proposal is at http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf
>
> I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-dev group, so I hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin developers will help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of adding this symbol, so please let me know if you support this proposal.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
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* Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode
2015-09-05 14:11 [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode Ken Shirriff
2015-09-05 14:26 ` Theo Chino
2015-09-05 14:58 ` Richard Moore
@ 2015-09-05 18:48 ` Andreas Schildbach
2015-09-06 23:26 ` Peter Todd
2015-09-08 20:28 ` Danny Thorpe
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From: Andreas Schildbach @ 2015-09-05 18:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-dev
Very cool! Thanks for tackling this.
On 09/05/2015 04:11 PM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> Use of the bitcoin symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin
> symbol isn't in the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a
> proposal to have the common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to
> Unicode. I've successfully proposed a new character for Unicode before,
> so I'm familiar with the process and think this has a good chance of
> succeeding. The proposal is at http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf
>
> I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-dev group,
> so I hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin
> developers will help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of
> adding this symbol, so please let me know if you support this proposal.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
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* Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode
2015-09-05 14:11 [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode Ken Shirriff
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2015-09-05 18:48 ` Andreas Schildbach
@ 2015-09-06 23:26 ` Peter Todd
2015-09-08 20:28 ` Danny Thorpe
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From: Peter Todd @ 2015-09-06 23:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ken Shirriff; +Cc: bitcoin-dev
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On Sat, Sep 05, 2015 at 07:11:27AM -0700, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> Use of the bitcoin symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin
> symbol isn't in the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a proposal
> to have the common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode.
> I've successfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm
> familiar with the process and think this has a good chance of succeeding.
> The proposal is at http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf
>
> I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-dev group, so I
> hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin developers will
> help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of adding this symbol, so
> please let me know if you support this proposal.
ACK
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* Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode
2015-09-05 14:11 [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode Ken Shirriff
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2015-09-06 23:26 ` Peter Todd
@ 2015-09-08 20:28 ` Danny Thorpe
2015-09-08 21:05 ` Ken Shirriff
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From: Danny Thorpe @ 2015-09-08 20:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ken Shirriff; +Cc: Bitcoin Dev
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What of this prior effort, proposing B-with-horizontal-bar (Ƀ)?
http://bitcoinsymbol.org/
They argue that B-with-2-vertical-bars is easily confused with the Thai
Bhat currency symbol, which is a B with a single vertical bar.
I'm not terribly fond of the B-with-horizontal-bar as a symbol, but it does
have the advantage that it is already in the Unicode glyph set, already
available on most Unicode enabled devices.
-Danny
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Use of the bitcoin symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin
> symbol isn't in the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a proposal
> to have the common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode.
> I've successfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm
> familiar with the process and think this has a good chance of succeeding.
> The proposal is at http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf
>
> I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-dev group, so
> I hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin developers
> will help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of adding this
> symbol, so please let me know if you support this proposal.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
>
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* Re: [bitcoin-dev] Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode
2015-09-08 20:28 ` Danny Thorpe
@ 2015-09-08 21:05 ` Ken Shirriff
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From: Ken Shirriff @ 2015-09-08 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Danny Thorpe; +Cc: Bitcoin Dev
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On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Danny Thorpe <danny.thorpe@gmail•com> wrote:
> What of this prior effort, proposing B-with-horizontal-bar (Ƀ)?
> http://bitcoinsymbol.org/
>
> They argue that B-with-2-vertical-bars is easily confused with the Thai
> Bhat currency symbol, which is a B with a single vertical bar.
>
Actually that page argues that using the Thai Bhat currency symbol *for*
Bitcoin causes confusion. From the page you linked to:
The Thai Baht (฿ <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_baht>) is sometimes
used to represent Bitcoin, but this certainly raises a problem of
differenciation between the Thai Baht and Bitcoin.
Their main motivation for using the horizontal-bar Ƀ (which they admit is a
hack) is they consider adding a character to Unicode to be a "really long
and complicated process". My view is that adding the bitcoin sign to
Unicode avoids confusion with the Thai Baht, avoids hacks such as Ƀ, and
lets everyone use the standard symbol. Hopefully it won't be a really long
and complicated process...
Ken
> I'm not terribly fond of the B-with-horizontal-bar as a symbol, but it
> does have the advantage that it is already in the Unicode glyph set,
> already available on most Unicode enabled devices.
>
> -Danny
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Use of the bitcoin symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin
>> symbol isn't in the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a proposal
>> to have the common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode.
>> I've successfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm
>> familiar with the process and think this has a good chance of succeeding.
>> The proposal is at http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf
>>
>> I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-dev group, so
>> I hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin developers
>> will help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of adding this
>> symbol, so please let me know if you support this proposal.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> bitcoin-dev mailing list
>> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>>
>>
>
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* [bitcoin-dev] Fwd: Proposal to add the bitcoin symbol to Unicode
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@ 2017-06-20 22:13 ` Theo Chino
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From: Theo Chino @ 2017-06-20 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bitcoin Dev
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Ken and team,
Took some time but here it is ! *Bravo !*
And as usual reporter make up the shit they want ... Feel free to remind
them that we had a working group and we worked on it.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/20/15840008/new-emoji-
unicode-consortium-version-10-bitcoin-symbol
The "Could be" is a bit too much. It's time we keep reporter in check so
feel free to remind her in your own way.
My way is "pissed off tweet", https://twitter.com/TheoBitcoin/status/
877277497796198400 but used your own way.
A page is officially turned.
Regards,
Theo
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Danny Thorpe <danny.thorpe@gmail•com>
> wrote:
>
>> What of this prior effort, proposing B-with-horizontal-bar (Ƀ)?
>> http://bitcoinsymbol.org/
>>
>> They argue that B-with-2-vertical-bars is easily confused with the Thai
>> Bhat currency symbol, which is a B with a single vertical bar.
>>
>
> Actually that page argues that using the Thai Bhat currency symbol *for*
> Bitcoin causes confusion. From the page you linked to:
>
> The Thai Baht (฿ <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_baht>) is sometimes
> used to represent Bitcoin, but this certainly raises a problem of
> differenciation between the Thai Baht and Bitcoin.
>
> Their main motivation for using the horizontal-bar Ƀ (which they admit is
> a hack) is they consider adding a character to Unicode to be a "really long
> and complicated process". My view is that adding the bitcoin sign to
> Unicode avoids confusion with the Thai Baht, avoids hacks such as Ƀ, and
> lets everyone use the standard symbol. Hopefully it won't be a really long
> and complicated process...
>
> Ken
>
>
>> I'm not terribly fond of the B-with-horizontal-bar as a symbol, but it
>> does have the advantage that it is already in the Unicode glyph set,
>> already available on most Unicode enabled devices.
>>
>> -Danny
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Ken Shirriff via bitcoin-dev <
>> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Use of the bitcoin symbol in text is inconvenient, because the bitcoin
>>> symbol isn't in the Unicode standard. To fix this, I've written a proposal
>>> to have the common B-with-vertical-bars bitcoin symbol added to Unicode.
>>> I've successfully proposed a new character for Unicode before, so I'm
>>> familiar with the process and think this has a good chance of succeeding.
>>> The proposal is at http://righto.com/bitcoin-unicode.pdf
>>>
>>> I received a suggestion to run this proposal by the bitcoin-dev group,
>>> so I hope this email is appropriate here. Endorsement by Bitcoin developers
>>> will help the Unicode Committee realize the importance of adding this
>>> symbol, so please let me know if you support this proposal.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> bitcoin-dev mailing list
>>> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
>>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
>
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