On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 03:02:36AM +0000, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev wrote: > First of all, that's an expensive beer! > > Second of all, any consensus rule change risks non-full-validating > or non-upgraded nodes seeing invalid confirmations...but assuming a > large supermajority (i.e. > 95%) of hashing power is behind the new > rule, it is extremely unlikely that very many invalid confirmations > will ever be seen by anyone. The number of confirmations you require To clarify, because the 95% of upgraded hashing power is creating valid blocks from the point of view of the remaining 5%, that 95% majority will continually reorg the 5% non-upgrading chain. This ensures that the invalid chain remains short, and thus the # of invalid confirmations possible remains small. For instance, the chance of getting one invalid confirmation is 0.05^1 = 5%, two invalid confirmations 0.05^2 = 0.25%, three 0.05^3 = 0.01% etc. Whereas with a hard fork, the 5% of miners will continue mining on their own chain. While that chain's length will increase more slowly than normal, the # of confirmations that non-upgraded clients will see on it are unbounded. Anyway, we should write this up as a BIP - there's been a tremendous amount of misinformation, even flat out lies, floating around on this subject. -- 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 000000000000000001bd68962863e6fa34e9776df361d4926912f52fc5f4b618