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From: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr•org>
To: Toby Padilla <tobypadilla@gmail•com>
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP Draft] Allow zero value OP_RETURN in Payment Protocol
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 03:04:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201601260304.34013.luke@dashjr.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGcHOzwpcCdgJ1VcBrnZ+D8dfZFBJYLs_A9Z4Nz-FJokdkcuyQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 3:01:13 AM Toby Padilla wrote:
> > As I explained, none of those reasons apply to PaymentRequests.
> 
> As they exist today PaymentRequests allow for essentially the same types of
> transactions as non-PaymentRequest based transactions with the limitation
> that OP_RETURN values must be greater. In that sense they're basically a
> pre-OP_RETURN environment. OP_RETURN serves a purpose and it can't be used
> with PaymentRequest transactions.

OP_RETURN can be used, but you need to burn coins. I don't see any benefit to 
changing that. It is better that coins are burned.

> > I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
> 
> I think if you think through how you would create an OP_RETURN transaction
> today without this BIP you'll see you need a key at some point if you want
> a zero value.

You *always* need a key, to redeem inputs... regardless of values.

Luke


  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-26  3:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-26  1:02 Toby Padilla
2016-01-26  2:24 ` Luke Dashjr
2016-01-26  2:54   ` Toby Padilla
2016-01-26  2:56     ` Luke Dashjr
2016-01-26  3:01       ` Toby Padilla
2016-01-26  3:04         ` Luke Dashjr [this message]
2016-01-26  3:07           ` Toby Padilla
2016-01-26  3:12             ` Luke Dashjr
2016-01-26  3:17               ` Toby Padilla
2016-01-26  3:23                 ` Luke Dashjr
2016-01-26  3:30                   ` Toby Padilla
2016-01-26 16:19                     ` Thomas Kerin
2016-01-26 17:44                       ` Toby Padilla
2016-02-02 17:03                         ` Peter Todd
2016-02-02 17:16                           ` Pieter Wuille
2016-02-02 17:27                             ` Toby Padilla
2016-02-02 17:38                               ` Peter Todd
2016-02-02 17:41                                 ` Toby Padilla
2016-02-02 19:12                                   ` Peter Todd
2016-02-02 19:22                                     ` Toby Padilla
2016-02-02 19:14                             ` Luke Dashjr
2016-01-26 14:37     ` Andreas Schildbach
2016-01-26 17:41       ` Toby Padilla
2016-02-02 17:07         ` Peter Todd

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