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From: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr•org>
To: Toby Padilla <tobypadilla@gmail•com>
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP Draft] Allow zero value OP_RETURN in Payment Protocol
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 03:12:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201601260312.25248.luke@dashjr.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGcHOzy9nSTLKjgiV3mDcawJaL-MiTAscSO4Ok0Lz9ysWBoKNg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday, January 26, 2016 3:07:40 AM Toby Padilla wrote:
> > I don't see any benefit to changing that. It is better that coins are
> > burned.
> 
> I think this is our fundamental disagreement. People will burn coins to
> encode data, why allow this when there's a better alternative?

My point is that there isn't a better alternative. The coins being burned, is 
strictly better than it being gratis.

> > You *always* need a key, to redeem inputs... regardless of values.
> 
> Correct, but with BIP70 that key is in the user's wallet and you can
> construct transactions on another machine (thus not needing a key during
> construction). Right now there's no way to do the transaction construction
> on another machine with zero value OP_RETURNs.

This is also a good thing. Spam should not be made easier or cheaper.

Luke


  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-26  3:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-26  1:02 Toby Padilla
2016-01-26  2:24 ` Luke Dashjr
2016-01-26  2:54   ` Toby Padilla
2016-01-26  2:56     ` Luke Dashjr
2016-01-26  3:01       ` Toby Padilla
2016-01-26  3:04         ` Luke Dashjr
2016-01-26  3:07           ` Toby Padilla
2016-01-26  3:12             ` Luke Dashjr [this message]
2016-01-26  3:17               ` Toby Padilla
2016-01-26  3:23                 ` Luke Dashjr
2016-01-26  3:30                   ` Toby Padilla
2016-01-26 16:19                     ` Thomas Kerin
2016-01-26 17:44                       ` Toby Padilla
2016-02-02 17:03                         ` Peter Todd
2016-02-02 17:16                           ` Pieter Wuille
2016-02-02 17:27                             ` Toby Padilla
2016-02-02 17:38                               ` Peter Todd
2016-02-02 17:41                                 ` Toby Padilla
2016-02-02 19:12                                   ` Peter Todd
2016-02-02 19:22                                     ` Toby Padilla
2016-02-02 19:14                             ` Luke Dashjr
2016-01-26 14:37     ` Andreas Schildbach
2016-01-26 17:41       ` Toby Padilla
2016-02-02 17:07         ` Peter Todd

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