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From: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr•org>
To: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org, Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph•org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] I do not support the BIP 148 UASF
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:46:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201704251846.10793.luke@dashjr.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgQzd9J3iNMRfW+x1QnqMFAHx89+GTXEt0SWm6+USZniDA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday 25 April 2017 6:28:14 PM Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> > https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/master...shaolinfry:uasegwit-f
> > lagday
> > 
> > I believe this approach would satisfy the more measured approach expected
> > for Bitcoin and does not have the issues you brought up about BIP148.
> 
> I have not reviewed it carefully yet, but I agree that it addresses my
> main concern!  I think this is a much better approach. Thanks.

FWIW, I disagree in this case. I think given the circumstances, if we are 
going to do a UASF for segwit at all, we need a clearly decisive outcome, 
which is given by BIP 148. Using the approach in BIP 8 makes sense in many 
cases, but in this case, it is liable to simply create a prolonged uncertainty 
where nobody knows the outcome when segwit's rules are challenged by a 
malicious miner.

If BIP 148 fails to achieve widespread support, we could do a BIP 8-based UASF 
with Segwit v2 (along with some other changes I suggested in the other 
thread), but I think the tradeoffs right now favour BIP 148 as the best UASF 
deployment.

Luke


  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-25 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-14  7:56 Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-14 16:50 ` praxeology_guy
2017-04-14 17:36   ` Chris Stewart
2017-04-14 18:33     ` praxeology_guy
2017-04-14 19:12   ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 19:20 ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 19:33   ` James Hilliard
2017-04-14 20:34     ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 20:51       ` James Hilliard
2017-04-14 20:58         ` Tom Zander
2017-04-14 21:10           ` James Hilliard
2017-04-14 21:12             ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-14 20:59       ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  2:01 ` Steven Pine
2017-04-15  3:05   ` Chris Stewart
2017-04-15  3:29   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  4:10     ` Steven Pine
2017-04-15  4:47       ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  6:28 ` Cameron Garnham
2017-04-15  7:04   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-15  7:46     ` Chris Acheson
2017-04-15 13:23       ` Natanael
2017-04-15 13:54         ` Greg Sanders
2017-04-15  8:05     ` Cameron Garnham
2017-04-20 18:39 ` shaolinfry
2017-04-25 18:28   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-25 18:46     ` Luke Dashjr [this message]
2017-05-02 16:54       ` Erik Aronesty
2017-05-22 19:23 ` Suhas Daftuar
2017-05-23  4:03   ` Steven Pine
2017-05-23  6:30     ` Karl Johan Alm
2017-05-23 12:55       ` Luke Dashjr
2017-05-23 13:20         ` Jorge Timón
2017-05-23  9:47     ` Hampus Sjöberg
2017-04-14 10:52 Chris Acheson
2017-04-15 13:42 Mark Friedenbach
2017-04-15 14:54 ` Ryan Grant
2017-04-15 18:50 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-04-19 16:17   ` Erik Aronesty
2017-04-20 14:23     ` Alphonse Pace
2017-04-20 15:48       ` Erik Aronesty

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