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From: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr•org>
To: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org,
	Sergio Demian Lerner <sergio.d.lerner@gmail•com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] A Segwit2x BIP
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 01:06:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201707120106.16951.luke@dashjr.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKzdR-oRdX-fXyc6womZOyYyfHUJZdgh92FUMM8pR_QDNiJfkQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday 10 July 2017 11:50:33 AM Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> Regarding the timeline, its certainly rather short, but also is the UASF
> BIP 148 ultimatum.

BIP148 began with 8 months lead time, reduced to 5 months from popular request 
and technical considerations. There is nothing about BIP148 that compels an 
attempted hardfork 90 days later - that could just as well have been 18 
months.

> More than 80% of the miners and many users are willing to go in the
> Segwit2x direction. With the support and great talent of the Bitcoin Core
> developers, Segwit2x activation will not cause any major disruptions.

That's not true at all. Based on my observations, only approximately 20% of 
the community follow Core's technical lead without significant consideration 
of their own - and who knows if that would change if Core were to suggest 
clearly-unsafe block size increases, or attempted to force a hardfork against 
consensus. Even with Core's support, many people would oppose the hardfork 
attempt, and it would fail.

> Without Core, there will be a temporary split. Both sides will have to
> hard-fork.

Segwit2x's hardfork does not compel the remaining Bitcoin users to also 
hardfork.

> I want a Bitcoin united. But maybe a split of Bitcoin, each side with its
> own vision, is not so bad.

I concur, but I disagree your approach has any possibility of a united 
Bitcoin. The only way to get that today, would be to do Segwit+Drivechain, not 
Segwit+Hardfork.

Luke


  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-12  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-07 22:25 Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-07-07 22:44 ` Matt Corallo
2017-07-07 23:25   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-07 23:22 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-13  3:10   ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-07-13  3:19     ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-07-07 23:27 ` Luke Dashjr
2017-07-07 23:38   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-08  6:30 ` Erik Aronesty
2017-07-08 13:28 ` Btc Drak
     [not found]   ` <A7FFF8F7-9806-44F1-B68F-F83C44893365@ob1.io>
2017-07-10 11:50     ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-07-10 18:38       ` Jorge Timón
2017-07-12  8:15         ` Tom Zander
2017-07-12 12:38           ` Jonas Schnelli
2017-07-12 17:38           ` Jorge Timón
2017-07-13 19:19             ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-07-13 19:48               ` Andrew Chow
2017-07-13 21:18                 ` Charlie 'Charles' Shrem
2017-07-14 13:50               ` Erik Aronesty
2017-07-12  1:06       ` Luke Dashjr [this message]
2017-07-12 15:41         ` Aymeric Vitte

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