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From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
To: Alex Morcos <morcos@gmail•com>,
	Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Updating the Scaling Roadmap [Update]
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:50:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170717215038.GB8227@fedora-23-dvm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPWm=eVZQ5FM7AohEMocUobj4jhFvdb-Uc+DhAmSSFZ3_funrw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 02:49:22PM -0400, Alex Morcos via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> "it was ACKed by everyone else that I heard from"  - I don't think you
> should read into that much.
> 
> I felt like this whole conversation was putting the cart before the horse.
> You might very well have some good ideas in your roadmap update, to tell
> you the truth, I didn't even read it.
> But I don't think we should be taking relatively new/untested ideas such as
> Drivechain and sticking them on a roadmap.  There is a tendency in this
> community to hear about the latest and greatest idea and immediately fixate
> on it as our salvation. I'm very happy that you are doing this work and
> that others are researching a wide variety of ideas.  But please, lets be
> conservative and flexible with how we evolve Bitcoin.  We don't even know
> if or when we'll get segwit yet.

Agreed!

A closely related example is my own Treechains work, which got a bunch of
excitement when I first published the idea. But would I have wanted it on a
roadmap? Hell no: sure enough, as it got more peer review others (and myself!)
found that it was going to be a harder than it initially looked to actually get
into production.

Drivechains is definitely in that situation right now.

Also don't forget that proper security peer review takes a *lot* of work. I
myself have a todo list item to respond to Paul's post on Drivechains, but I
need to spend a few days to do that and just haven't had the time (not to
mention that no-one is paying me to do general Bitcoin dev work right now).

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-17 21:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-10 16:50 [bitcoin-dev] Updating the Scaling Roadmap Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 16:03 ` Chris Stewart
2017-07-11 16:49   ` Adam Back
2017-07-11 20:01   ` Pieter Wuille
2017-07-11 20:36     ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 21:40       ` Pieter Wuille
2017-07-11 22:49         ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 21:16     ` CryptAxe
2017-07-11 20:18   ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 21:31     ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-11 22:27       ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 21:11 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-11 21:40   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-11 22:17   ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 22:41     ` Tao Effect
2017-07-11 22:57       ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-11 23:12         ` Tao Effect
2017-07-12  0:21           ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-12  7:27             ` Jacob Eliosoff
2017-07-12 19:19           ` Chris Stewart
2017-07-12 19:24             ` Tao Effect
2017-07-12 19:34               ` Chris Stewart
2017-07-12 19:42                 ` Tao Effect
2017-07-12 19:54                   ` CryptAxe
2017-07-12 21:55                     ` Tao Effect
2017-07-12 22:07                       ` CryptAxe
2017-07-11 23:36     ` Bryan Bishop
2017-07-12  0:07     ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-12  1:40       ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-12  2:48         ` Bryan Bishop
2017-07-12  3:33         ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-12  6:17           ` [bitcoin-dev] how to disable segwit in my build? Dan Libby
2017-07-13  1:04             ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-13 13:11               ` Federico Tenga
2017-07-13 13:39                 ` Hampus Sjöberg
2017-07-13 16:19                   ` Dan Libby
2017-07-13 16:35                     ` Jameson Lopp
2017-07-13 21:58                       ` Dan Libby
2017-07-13 22:50                         ` Hampus Sjöberg
2017-07-13 23:20                           ` Dan Libby
2017-07-14  8:52                             ` Hampus Sjöberg
2017-07-14  9:03                             ` Tier Nolan
2017-07-13 23:19                         ` Lucas Clemente Vella
2017-07-13 16:05               ` Dan Libby
2017-07-14 21:11               ` Troy Benjegerdes
2017-07-13  1:48             ` Anthony Towns
2017-07-13 16:13               ` Dan Libby
2017-07-12  1:22   ` [bitcoin-dev] Updating the Scaling Roadmap Karl Johan Alm
2017-07-12  9:37     ` Tom Zander
2017-07-12  9:02   ` Tom Zander
2017-07-11 23:28 ` Anthony Towns
2017-07-17 17:13 ` [bitcoin-dev] Updating the Scaling Roadmap [Update] Paul Sztorc
2017-07-17 18:49   ` Alex Morcos
2017-07-17 20:13     ` Paul Sztorc
2017-07-17 21:50     ` Peter Todd [this message]
     [not found]   ` <20170717214704.ksegcrdqf3zeslah@fedora-23-dvm>
2017-07-17 22:04     ` Paul Sztorc

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