From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
To: Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph•org>,
Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Updates on Confidential Transactions efficiency
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:07:28 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171114100728.GA29749@savin.petertodd.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgQ0Cb2B=Ye2TnpfQqP4=kpZCxMWRXYB0CcFa71sQJaGuw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 01:21:14AM +0000, Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> The primary advantage of this approach is that it can be constructed
> without any substantial new cryptographic assumptions (e.g., only
> discrete log security in our existing curve), that it can be high
> performance compared to alternatives, that it has no trusted setup,
> and that it doesn't involve the creation of any forever-growing
> unprunable accumulators. All major alternative schemes fail multiple
> of these criteria (e.g., arguably Zcash's scheme fails every one of
> them).
Re: the unprunable accumulators, that doesn't need to be an inherent property
of Zcash/Monero style systems.
It'd be quite feasible to use accumulator epochs and either make unspent coins
in a previous epoch unspendable after some expiry time is reached - allowing
the spent coin accumulator data to be discarded - or make use of a merkelized
key-value scheme with transaction provided proofs to shift the costs of
maintaining the accumulator to wallets.
The disadvantage of epoch schemes is of course a reduced k-anonymity set, but
if I understand the Confidential Transactions proposals correctly, they already
have a significantly reduced k-anonymity set per transaction than Zcash
theoretically could (modulo it's in practice low anonymity set due to lack of
actual usage). In that respect, epoch size is simply a tradeoff between state
size and k-anonymity set size.
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-14 1:21 Gregory Maxwell
2017-11-14 9:11 ` Peter Todd
2017-11-14 10:38 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-11-14 10:51 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-11-14 10:07 ` Peter Todd [this message]
2017-12-04 17:17 ` Andrew Poelstra
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