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From: Mark Friedenbach <mark@friedenbach•org>
To: Sergio Demian Lerner <sergio.d.lerner@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] cleanstack alt stack & softfork improvements (Was: Merkle branch verification & tail-call semantics for generalized MAST)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:11:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3385CE20-C1BA-40DD-8FC3-8F53F3350717@friedenbach.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKzdR-phAarTY16BOnC95BPN0qMNEE_XZ9H-XmFeeaBc2V1U5w@mail.gmail.com>

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> On Sep 22, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Sergio Demian Lerner <sergio.d.lerner@gmail•com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> There are other solutions to this problem that could have been taken
> instead, such as committing to the number of items or maximum size of
> the stack as part of the sighash data, but cleanstack was the approach
> taken. 
> 
> The lack of signed maximum segwit stack size was one of the objections to segwit I presented last year. This together with the unlimited segwit stack size.
> 
> However, committing to the maximum stack size (in bytes) for an input is tricky. The only place where this could be packed is in sequence_no, with a soft-fork. E.g. when transaction version is 2 and and only when lock_time is zero.
> 
> For transactions with locktime >0, we could soft-fork so transactions add a last zero-satoshi output whose scriptPub contains OP_RETURN and followed by N VarInts, containing the maximum stack size of each input. 
> Normally, for a 400 byte, 2-input transaction, this will add 11 bytes, or a 2.5% overhead.

There’s no need to put it in the transaction itself. You put it in the witness and it is either committed to as part of the witness (in which case it has to hold for all possible spend paths), or at spend time by including it in the data signed by CHECKSIG.


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-22 21:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-07  0:38 [bitcoin-dev] Merkle branch verification & tail-call semantics for generalized MAST Mark Friedenbach
2017-09-08  9:21 ` Johnson Lau
2017-09-12  2:03   ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-09-12  2:13     ` Bryan Bishop
2017-09-12  8:55     ` Johnson Lau
2017-09-12 19:57       ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-09-12 23:27         ` Karl Johan Alm
2017-09-13  9:41           ` Peter Todd
2017-09-11 20:37 ` Adán Sánchez de Pedro Crespo
2017-09-19  0:46 ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-09-19  3:09   ` [bitcoin-dev] cleanstack alt stack & softfork improvements (Was: Merkle branch verification & tail-call semantics for generalized MAST) Luke Dashjr
2017-09-19  7:33     ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-09-22 20:32       ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-09-22 21:11         ` Mark Friedenbach [this message]
2017-09-22 21:32           ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-09-22 21:39             ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-09-22 21:54               ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-09-22 22:07                 ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-09-22 22:09                 ` Pieter Wuille
2021-04-09  8:15                   ` [bitcoin-dev] maximum block height on transaction Erik Aronesty
2021-04-09 11:39                     ` Russell O'Connor
2021-04-09 15:54                       ` Jeremy
2021-04-12 20:04                         ` Billy Tetrud
2021-04-16  4:24                           ` ZmnSCPxj
2021-05-03  2:30                             ` ZmnSCPxj
2017-09-20  5:13     ` [bitcoin-dev] cleanstack alt stack & softfork improvements (Was: Merkle branch verification & tail-call semantics for generalized MAST) Johnson Lau
2017-09-20 19:29       ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-09-21  3:58         ` Johnson Lau
2017-09-21  4:11       ` Luke Dashjr
2017-09-21  8:02         ` Johnson Lau
2017-09-21 16:33           ` Luke Dashjr
2017-09-21 17:38             ` Johnson Lau
2017-09-30 23:23 ` [bitcoin-dev] Merkle branch verification & tail-call semantics for generalized MAST Luke Dashjr
2017-09-30 23:51   ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-10-02 17:15     ` Russell O'Connor
2017-10-28  4:40 ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-11-01  8:43   ` Luke Dashjr
2017-11-01 15:08     ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-11-04  7:59       ` Luke Dashjr

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