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From: Alan Reiner <etotheipi@gmail•com>
To: bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 19:46:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F14C4EF.5070709@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1326760227.63298.YahooMailNeo@web121006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

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You guys are representing both extremes of the issue.  In response to 
Jeff and Luke-Jr, I don't see how this is /just any other poltical 
issue/.  It strikes at the heart of everything Bitcoin is about.  
Barring Bitcoin-specific legislation, I don't see how any legislation 
could be more relevant to Bitcoin and the community around it.

On the other hand, Bitcoin is still a non-entity, and shouldn't get in 
the business of making statements.  A central voice for Bitcoin gives 
the impression that it is actually centralized, and one that has 
opinions.  Plus I wouldn't be surprised if some, heavily-invested 
Bitcoin users were of the opinion that SOPA/PIPA/whatever could be a 
huge profit for themselves:  once SOPA kicks in and businesses around 
the world start getting cut off for legit or illegitimate purposes, a 
lot of them could potentially switch to Bitcoin to keep their business 
going.  That could be a huge boon for Bitcoin.  You may not agree it's 
worth the tradeoff, but people are selfish and may not actually 
understand or even care about SOPA legislation itself.

I think it's /not inappropriate/ for something to be mentioned on the 
website about Bitcoin's philosophy being threatened by SOPA, but I agree 
Bitcoin should avoid making any bold political stands.  Users could be 
reminded that SOPA affects yet another thing they care about, but it 
might be better to avoid it altogether.  If any response is made, it 
should be a very light one.

-Alan


On 01/16/2012 07:30 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
> Bunk argument. This is an issue that affects bitcoin directly.
>
> Wikipedia has far more need to remain neutral and apolitical than bitcoin ever does- you've read Satoshi's politically charged whitepaper or seen the genesis block quote.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action
>
> The Wikipedia community decided on a full and global blackout. Bitcoin should do the same in unison with the rest of the web- sites like Reddit, 4chan and Wikipedia.
>
> It's funny / almost comical how you consign this to being just another issue or case of moral alarm. Sad.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Garzik<jgarzik@exmulti•com>
> To: Amir Taaki<zgenjix@yahoo•com>
> Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net"<bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Amir Taaki<zgenjix@yahoo•com>  wrote:
>> How is this not the most important world issue right now?
>>
>> EVERYTHING is under threat. Go nuclear to show our nerd-rage.
>>
>> Everybody blank your personal sites too. Americans, take to the streets. World, go scream at the US embassy.
>
> There are always issues that raise ire and moral outrage.  I would
> rather that bitcoin.org stay apolitical -- our users will appreciate
> this in the long run.
>


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-17  0:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-15 22:09 Amir Taaki
2012-01-15 22:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2012-01-16  1:19   ` Luke-Jr
2012-01-16  7:35     ` Wladimir
2012-01-16  8:12       ` Gregory Maxwell
2012-01-16  8:29         ` Wladimir
2012-01-17  0:30   ` Amir Taaki
2012-01-17  0:46     ` Alan Reiner [this message]
2012-01-17  0:59       ` slush
2012-01-17  2:35         ` Cameron Garnham
2012-01-17  2:25       ` Luke-Jr
2012-01-17  9:19     ` Vladimir Marchenko
2012-01-17  2:37   ` Kyle Henderson
2012-01-17  6:15     ` Gregory Maxwell
2012-01-17  7:42       ` Jorge Timón
2012-01-17  9:04         ` Wladimir
2012-01-17 16:03         ` Luke-Jr
2012-01-17 16:16           ` James Burkle
2012-01-17 16:30             ` solar
2012-01-17  9:25       ` Stefan Thomas
2012-01-17 19:03 Peter Vessenes

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