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From: Mark Friedenbach <mark@monetize•io>
To: bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Feedback requested: "reject" p2p message
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 02:05:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5270CBC1.7080506@monetize.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANEZrP0fU3M3o4ZgBormcuRvkipM0tjNG+StA_QC90UbcpxdGA@mail.gmail.com>

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If I understand the code correctly, it's not about rejecting blocks.
It's about noticing that >50% of recent blocks are declaring a version
number that is meaningless to you. Chances are, there's been a soft
fork and you should upgrade.

On 10/30/13 1:24 AM, Mike Hearn wrote:
> 
> But if you are getting soft-forked recent versions of the
> reference implementation WILL alert you; see this code in
> main.cpp:
> 
> 
> Perhaps I'm confused about how we're using the term soft fork. My 
> understanding is that this is where a new upgrade is designed to
> look valid to old nodes, and if you don't upgrade you rely on the
> miner majority to get you "back on track". For instance, P2SH was
> done this way - old nodes that didn't upgrade during that
> transition believed all spends of P2SH outputs were valid, even
> those spending someone elses coins.
> 
> In this case, the code you cite won't do anything because your
> client will never reject a block during a soft-forking upgrade,
> even if it does something that's supposed to be invalid or
> nonsensical.
> 
> If a new block version changes the serialization format or script 
> language or SIGHASH rules such that old clients reject the block,
> then they will end up on a hard fork and the alerting code will
> trigger, which is correct and as it should be.
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-30  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-26  0:34 Gavin Andresen
2013-10-26  1:01 ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2013-10-26  2:00   ` Gavin
2013-10-26  4:32     ` kjj
2013-10-27 14:32       ` Mike Hearn
2013-10-27 14:39         ` Luke-Jr
2013-10-27 14:50           ` Mike Hearn
2013-10-30 17:13         ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-10-31 12:01           ` Mike Hearn
2013-10-27 22:52       ` Gavin Andresen
2013-10-28  2:52         ` kjj
2013-10-28  9:26           ` Andreas Schildbach
2013-10-28  9:32             ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-10-29  5:37               ` Gavin Andresen
2013-10-29  8:55                 ` Warren Togami Jr.
2013-10-29  9:12                   ` Peter Todd
2013-10-29  9:52                 ` Mike Hearn
2013-10-29 10:14                   ` Peter Todd
2013-10-29 11:38                     ` Peter Todd
2013-10-29 12:32                       ` Mike Hearn
2013-10-29 16:35                         ` [Bitcoin-development] On soft-forks and hard-forks Peter Todd
2013-10-30  2:01                         ` [Bitcoin-development] Feedback requested: "reject" p2p message Gavin Andresen
2013-10-30  8:24                           ` Mike Hearn
2013-10-30  9:05                             ` Mark Friedenbach [this message]
2013-10-30 10:26                               ` Mike Hearn
2013-10-28  2:59         ` Luke-Jr
2013-10-28  3:02         ` Pieter Wuille

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