From: Tom Harding <tomh@thinlink•com>
To: bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] deterministic transaction expiration
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 10:02:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53E25F8A.5070905@thinlink.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJHLa0OQJEvQht_chF1gVG_BOwp=DW0zOOo3VE_acZonsSguWw@mail.gmail.com>
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Today we have first-eligible-height (nLockTime), and mempool expiration
measured from this height would work for the goals being discussed, no
fork or protocol rev.
With first-eligible-height and last-eligible-height, creator could
choose a lifetime shorter than the max, and in addition, lock the whole
thing until some point in the future.
On 8/6/2014 9:15 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> A fork is not necessarily required, if you are talking about
> information that deals primarily with pre-consensus mempool behavior.
> You can make a "network TX" with some information that is digitally
> signed, yet discarded before it reaches miners.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org
> <mailto:pete@petertodd•org>> wrote:
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> On 6 August 2014 08:17:02 GMT-07:00, Christian Decker
> <decker.christian@gmail•com <mailto:decker.christian@gmail•com>>
> wrote:
> >+1 for the new field, overloading fields with new meaning is
> definitely
> >not
> >a good idea.
>
> To add a new field the best way to do it is create a new,
> parallel, tx format where fields are committed by merkle radix
> tree in an extensible and provable way. You'd then commit to that
> tree with a mandatory OP_RETURN output in the last txout, or with
> a new merkle root.
>
> Changing the tx format itself in a hard-fork is needlessly
> disruptive, and in this case, wastes opportunities for improvement.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-06 17:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-01 0:58 Kaz Wesley
2014-08-01 1:06 ` Peter Todd
2014-08-01 1:37 ` Kaz Wesley
2014-08-01 1:38 ` Matt Whitlock
2014-08-01 2:28 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-08-01 3:26 ` Matt Whitlock
2014-08-01 3:31 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-08-05 18:01 ` Alex Mizrahi
2014-08-02 0:36 ` Tom Harding
2014-08-05 17:02 ` Flavien Charlon
2014-08-05 17:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-05 18:54 ` Mike Hearn
2014-08-05 19:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-05 19:10 ` Kaz Wesley
2014-08-05 19:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06 4:01 ` Tom Harding
2014-08-06 12:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06 13:54 ` Mike Hearn
2014-08-06 14:44 ` Tom Harding
2014-08-06 15:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06 15:17 ` Christian Decker
2014-08-06 15:42 ` Peter Todd
2014-08-06 16:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06 17:02 ` Tom Harding [this message]
2014-08-06 17:21 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-08-06 17:34 ` Peter Todd
2014-08-06 17:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-06 16:31 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-08-06 17:20 ` Peter Todd
2014-08-06 17:30 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-08-06 17:38 ` Peter Todd
2014-08-08 17:38 ` Tom Harding
2014-08-08 18:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-08-08 18:42 ` Kaz Wesley
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