* [bitcoin-dev] [Meta] bitcoin-dev moderation
@ 2019-08-01 19:47 Emil Engler
2019-08-02 11:43 ` Bryan Bishop
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From: Emil Engler @ 2019-08-01 19:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-dev
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In the last #bitcoin-core-dev IRC meeting, the mailing list moderation
was slightly discussed. It was decided to do this discussion mainly on
this mailing list (which makes sense).
The current situation is that the moderation is slow and takes around
>24h for a E-Mail to be on the mailing list.
Jonas Schnelli proposed: "I propose that we add more moderators to
shorten the moderation lag which has been between >24h, thus makes
debates cumbersome"
Beside this I had the idea of people who already contributed n e-mails
to the mailing list don't need an approval for any e-mail anymore (Where
n is the number of previous e-mails). Does this exists already?
Greetings,
Emil Engler
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* Re: [bitcoin-dev] [Meta] bitcoin-dev moderation
2019-08-01 19:47 [bitcoin-dev] [Meta] bitcoin-dev moderation Emil Engler
@ 2019-08-02 11:43 ` Bryan Bishop
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From: Bryan Bishop @ 2019-08-02 11:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emil Engler, Bitcoin Protocol Discussion, Bryan Bishop
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 10:50 PM Emil Engler via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> The current situation is that the moderation is slow and takes around
> >24h for a E-Mail to be on the mailing list
It really shouldn't be 24 hours. Our strategy was to have a few
moderators in different timezones to cover sleep shifts or other
disruptions of service. Evidently this has not been adequate.
> Jonas Schnelli proposed: "I propose that we add more moderators to
> shorten the moderation lag which has been between >24h, thus makes
> debates cumbersome"
Makes sense. I'll go find a few people.
> Beside this I had the idea of people who already contributed n e-mails
> to the mailing list don't need an approval for any e-mail anymore (Where
> n is the number of previous e-mails). Does this exists already?
There is an active software vulnerability which requires moderation to
be enabled. This version of mailman is unmaintained, and Linux
Foundation is migrating away from or abandoning the email protocol so
they are less willing to do backend infrastructure work. This
manifests in other ways, like downtime, but also weird situations like
missing emails that never hit the moderation queue. I get pings from
different people about two times a year where they report an email
that they think I missed, but in fact it never hit the moderation
queue at all. Email clearly isn't the greatest protocol.
- Bryan
http://heybryan.org/
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