From: s7r <s7r@sky-ip•org>
To: Peter R <peter_r@gmx•com>, Allen Piscitello <allen.piscitello@gmail•com>
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Your Gmaxwell exchange
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 02:47:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55E4E7AA.6010905@sky-ip.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5A3D7824-F1E3-421B-A32A-0EF21DD215BD@gmx.com>
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Decentralization depends on the context and does not have a definition
in a form that it was demanded... I can confirm we have people in our
community which do understand decentralization, and quite good
actually, just there is no definition if the form demanded.
It is known that ~90% (at least of the nodes accepting incoming
connections) are running Bitcoin Core software. This does not mean
that Bitcoin is somehow less decentralized. Bitcoin Core is open
source, it has many contributors from all over the world and there are
many pull requests - most of them do get merged if you check the
commit history. It is widely used because the quality of the code is 5
stars. There are other implementations as well, they are just not
widely used. This does not mean one is not free to write his own
implementation of the Bitcoin protocol (assuming he follows the
consensus rules of the network). The biggest problem is convincing
users to adopt that implementation, which is a normal thing which
happens in general, not only related to software implementations.
The problem is there is no other implementation out there which comes
near the quality of the code in Bitcoin Core. I am actually eager to
try other implementations as well, but something serious, because
Bitcoin itself is a payment protocol not something to play with.
This is the reason why a lot of developers contribute to Bitcoin Core
rather than writing their own implementation. This only makes Bitcoin
Core stronger, better, and obviously the result is that it has
majority in the ecosystem for good reasons. If I'm experienced in a
certain segment related to software developing, I am better of in
contributing to Bitcoin Core just with the part I know instead of
writing from scratch my own implementation.
On 9/1/2015 2:32 AM, Peter R via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> On 2015-08-31, at 2:24 PM, Allen Piscitello via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
> <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
>
>> Even so, *decentralization is a means to an end* - not an
>> end-goal. It is essential for Bitcoin to be a useful alternative,
>> of course.
>
> I agree. What about decentralization in development? Gavin
> recently said that he wants to "get to the point where there will
> be multiple robust implementations of the core protocol."
>
> When I look at this image (https://i.imgur.com/zivHJvY.gif)
> illustrating centralization in nodes, mining and development, the
> biggest source of concern for me is the 85% node share around
> Bitcoin Core. With this level of centralization, it may be
> possible in the future for a group of coders to prevent important
> changes from being made in a timely fashion (e.g., should their
> interests no longer align with those of the larger Bitcoin
> community).
>
> It is my opinion, then, that we should support multiple
> implementations of the Bitcoin protocol, working to reduce the
> network's dependency on Core.
>
> Best regards, Peter R
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-31 23:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-31 20:06 Monarch
2015-08-31 20:27 ` Justus Ranvier
2015-08-31 20:48 ` Monarch
2015-08-31 21:24 ` Allen Piscitello
2015-08-31 21:42 ` Monarch
2015-08-31 21:54 ` Justus Ranvier
2015-08-31 22:53 ` Monarch
2015-08-31 23:24 ` Justus Ranvier
2015-09-01 0:02 ` Milly Bitcoin
2015-09-01 9:25 ` Jorge Timón
2015-08-31 23:32 ` Peter R
2015-08-31 23:47 ` s7r [this message]
2015-09-01 2:16 ` [bitcoin-dev] Let's kill Bitcoin Core and allow the green shoots of a garden of new implementations to grow from its fertile ashes Peter R
2015-09-01 2:25 ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-09-01 8:42 ` Adam Back
2015-09-01 10:16 ` Chris D'Costa
2015-09-01 11:20 ` Monarch
2015-09-01 12:24 ` Wladimir
2015-09-01 22:06 ` s7r
2015-09-01 11:44 ` [bitcoin-dev] Your Gmaxwell exchange Monarch
2015-09-01 11:11 ` Monarch
2015-09-01 15:59 ` Dave Collins
2015-09-01 16:51 ` Monarch
2015-09-01 18:37 ` Eric Voskuil
2015-09-01 20:08 ` Monarch
[not found] <CAEgR2PFB3h_8fr=d8HegRSD0XdooimhFKtLR4vKr2QXv+EwBfQ@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <AD284610-4F40-445C-A074-CC94EDFFCBA8@gmx.com>
2015-08-30 3:25 ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-08-30 4:13 ` Peter R
2015-08-30 4:57 ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-08-30 6:38 ` Adam Ritter
2015-08-31 18:55 ` Justus Ranvier
2015-08-31 19:11 ` Mike Hearn
2015-09-01 20:29 ` Wladimir J. van der Laan
2015-09-02 18:51 ` Justus Ranvier
2015-09-01 2:30 ` Oliver Petruzel
2015-08-30 7:41 ` Peter R
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