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From: Mark Friedenbach <mark@friedenbach•org>
To: Daniele Pinna <daniele.pinna@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Rebatable fees & incentive-safe fee markets
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 08:22:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5F7A4F74-B108-4E30-A3F4-4125BBD0F819@friedenbach.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEgR2PGrf+4pQRyNC_xKVEKXimKTWveGK9q6YJeZkG0_r=8tkg@mail.gmail.com>

This is correct. Under assumptions of a continuous mempool model however this should be considered the outlier behavior, other than a little bit of empty space at the end, now and then. A maximum fee rate calculated as a filter over past block rates could constrain this outlier behavior from ever happening too.

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 3:43 AM, Daniele Pinna <daniele.pinna@gmail•com> wrote:
> 
> Maybe I'm getting this wrong but wouldn't this scheme imply that a miner is incentivized to limit the amount of transactions in a block to capture the maximum fee of the ones included?
> 
> As an example, mined blocks currently carry ~0.8 btc in fees right now. If I were to submit a transaction paying 1 btc in maximal money fees, then the miner would be incentivized to include my transaction alone to avoid that lower fee paying transactions reduce the amount of fees he can earn from my transaction alone. This would mean that I could literally clog the network by paying 1btc every ten minutes.
> 
> Am I missing something?
> 
> Daniele 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-29 15:22 UTC|newest]

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2017-09-29 10:43               ` Daniele Pinna
2017-09-29 12:50                 ` Alex Morcos
2017-09-29 15:22                 ` Mark Friedenbach [this message]
2017-09-30  3:53                   ` Jorge Timón
2017-09-30  3:55                     ` Jorge Timón
2017-09-30  8:54                       ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-09-30  0:47                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-09-29  1:06 Mark Friedenbach
2017-09-29  1:53 ` Matt Corallo
2017-09-29  2:09   ` Nathan Wilcox
2017-09-29  2:10   ` Peter Todd
2017-09-29  2:17     ` Nathan Wilcox
2017-09-29  3:30       ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-09-29  2:02 ` Peter Todd
2017-09-29  2:45   ` Mark Friedenbach
2017-09-29  3:02     ` Peter Todd
2017-09-29  4:45 ` Anthony Towns

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