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From: "David A. Harding" <dave@dtrt•org>
To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Why Full-RBF Makes DoS Attacks on Multiparty Protocols Significantly More Expensive
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 00:02:35 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6089e1f0140684435bf5e87b0c13d561@dtrt.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y70mNHsX4JcKYZyi@petertodd.org>

On 2023-01-09 22:47, Peter Todd wrote:
> How do you propose that the participants learn about the double-spend? 
> Without
> knowing that it happened, they can't respond as you suggested.

I can think of various ways---many of them probably the same ideas that
would occur to you.  More concise than listing them is to just assume
they exist and realize that any protocol software which wants to defeat
the $17.00 pinning attack needs to implement some sort of conflict
monitoring system---but by using that monitoring system to defeat the
$17.00 pinning attack, the software also defeats the $0.05 individual
conflicting input attack without any need for full-RBF.

Full-RBF provides no benefits here except those which are already
provided by other necessary tools.

Thanks,

-Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-10 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-09 22:18 Peter Todd
2023-01-10  7:11 ` David A. Harding
2023-01-10  8:47   ` Peter Todd
2023-01-10 10:02     ` David A. Harding [this message]
2023-01-10 10:06       ` Peter Todd
2023-01-10 20:14         ` David A. Harding
2023-01-13 23:37           ` Peter Todd
2023-01-10  9:19 ` alicexbt
2023-01-10 10:03   ` Peter Todd
2023-01-10 17:10     ` alicexbt
2023-01-13 23:46       ` Peter Todd

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