From: Eric Voskuil <eric@voskuil•org>
To: Erik Aronesty <erik@q32•com>,
Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Surprisingly, Tail Emission Is Not Inflationary
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 14:48:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6A72F2DB-C07C-4953-B820-03613941D72E@voskuil.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJowKgJb99LAQ=KGEcU2a1jJBPGBNh7=zW177NpS-vxvKZyO0A@mail.gmail.com>
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> On Jul 18, 2022, at 14:14, Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
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>> subsidy to directly tie miner revenue to the total value of Bitcoin
>> makes it not exactly how we want to incentivise a service that keeps
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> again, this is meaningless. if the fees aren't enough to keep bitcoin secure for large transactions, then large holders are incentivised to mine
Yes, this is another way to pay the tx fee - you mine at cost sufficient to overpower the censor. You are spending the block reward in getting your txs confirmed, and that’s your fee.
But unless you are mining full blocks of only your own transactions, this implies that you are accepting these higher fees on censored txs from others. Otherwise you are simply mining at a loss, which we cannot use as a rational basis for security.
And therefore this reduces to the simple fact that tx fees are what provides censorship resistance, whether you mine your own or others’.
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> that's it.
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> it's not complicated
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-09 20:54 Eric Voskuil
2022-07-09 21:59 ` ZmnSCPxj
2022-07-10 14:17 ` alicexbt
2022-07-10 16:38 ` alicexbt
2022-07-10 17:29 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-10 17:27 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-10 18:12 ` vjudeu
2022-07-18 11:34 ` David A. Harding
2022-07-18 19:14 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-18 21:48 ` Eric Voskuil [this message]
2022-07-25 15:04 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-26 15:44 ` jk_14
2022-07-26 17:05 ` Erik Aronesty
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2022-08-19 5:34 vjudeu
2022-08-18 20:22 jk_14
2022-08-17 13:43 jk_14
2022-08-18 15:29 ` Breno Brito
2022-08-18 15:44 ` Billy Tetrud
2022-08-18 20:49 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-08-17 8:54 jk_14
2022-08-16 16:05 Peter
2022-08-19 17:21 ` aliashraf.btc At protonmail
2022-08-20 15:30 ` Billy Tetrud
2022-08-15 21:46 jk_14
2022-08-17 11:10 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-26 20:01 jk_14
2022-07-19 18:36 Peter
2022-07-20 14:35 ` Eric Voskuil
2022-07-10 17:42 Eric Voskuil
[not found] <mailman.80287.1657405305.8511.bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
2022-07-10 7:44 ` John Tromp
2022-07-09 22:21 Peter
2022-07-09 20:53 Eric Voskuil
2022-07-09 14:57 John Tromp
2022-07-09 15:13 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-11 18:44 ` Dave Scotese
2022-07-09 12:46 Peter Todd
2022-07-09 14:26 ` Eric Voskuil
2022-07-09 15:15 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-09 15:24 ` Eric Voskuil
2022-07-09 15:31 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-09 17:43 ` naman naman
2022-07-09 17:48 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-10 6:54 ` naman naman
2022-07-10 2:10 ` Tobin Harding
2022-07-10 7:08 ` vjudeu
2022-07-11 18:25 ` Larry Ruane
2022-07-10 10:18 ` Jacob Eliosoff
2022-07-11 2:32 ` Anthony Towns
2022-07-11 6:15 ` Stefan Richter
2022-07-11 10:42 ` Giuseppe B
2022-07-11 12:56 ` Erik Aronesty
2022-07-11 23:57 ` Anthony Towns
2022-07-13 18:29 ` Zac Greenwood
2022-07-11 16:59 ` Peter Todd
2022-07-11 17:44 ` Bram Cohen
2022-07-13 14:06 ` Alfred Hodler
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