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From: Anthony Towns <aj@erisian•com.au>
To: Russell O'Connor <roconnor@blockstream•com>,
	Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>,
	Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>,
	Michael Folkson <michaelfolkson@protonmail•com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Unenforceable fee obligations in multiparty protocols with Taproot inputs
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2023 15:14:55 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6C1009F7-A90A-4B7D-8ED3-C0E9399873B6@erisian.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMZUoKkGCEZ+8zW_8WfE4=q2x+gcC4vR06gxTW3XwgpH5WGXSw@mail.gmail.com>

On 9 February 2023 12:04:16 am AEST, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>The fix for the bug is to sign the entire tapbranch instead of the tapleaf.
>
>On Wed., Feb. 8, 2023, 04:35 Michael Folkson, <michaelfolkson@protonmail•com>
>wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew
>>
>> > There is a bug in Taproot that allows the same Tapleaf to be repeated
>> multiple times in the same Taproot, potentially at different Taplevels
>> incurring different Tapfee rates.
>> >
>> > The countermeasure is that you should always know the entire Taptree
>> when interacting with someone's Tapspend.
>>
>> I wouldn't say it is a "bug" unless there is a remedy for the bug that
>> wasn't (and retrospectively should have been) included in the Taproot
>> design. In retrospect and assuming you could redesign the Taproot consensus
>> rules again today would you prevent spending from a valid P2TR address if a
>> repeated Tapleaf hash was used to prove that a spending path was embedded
>> in a Taproot tree? That's the only thing I can think of to attempt to
>> remedy this "bug" and it would only be a partial protection as proving a
>> spending path exists within a Taproot tree only requires a subset of the
>> Tapleaf hashes.
>>
>> I only point this out because there seems to be a push to find "bugs" and
>> "accidental blowups" in the Taproot design currently. No problem with this
>> if there are any, they should definitely be highlighted and discussed if
>> they do exist. The nearest to a possible inferior design decision thus far
>> that I'm aware of is x-only pubkeys in BIP340 [0].
>>
>> Thanks
>> Michael
>>
>> [0]:
>> https://btctranscripts.com/london-bitcoin-devs/2022-08-11-tim-ruffing-musig2/#a-retrospective-look-at-bip340
>>
>> --
>> Michael Folkson
>> Email: michaelfolkson at protonmail.com
>> Keybase: michaelfolkson
>> PGP: 43ED C999 9F85 1D40 EAF4 9835 92D6 0159 214C FEE3
>>
>> ------- Original Message -------
>> On Tuesday, February 7th, 2023 at 18:35, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev <
>> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> There is a bug in Taproot that allows the same Tapleaf to be repeated
>> multiple times in the same Taproot, potentially at different Taplevels
>> incurring different Tapfee rates.
>>
>> The countermeasure is that you should always know the entire Taptree when
>> interacting with someone's Tapspend.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:10 PM Andrew Poelstra via bitcoin-dev <
>> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Some people highlighted some minor problems with my last email:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 01:46:22PM +0000, Andrew Poelstra via bitcoin-dev
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > <snip>
>>> >
>>> > [1] https://bitcoin.sipa.be/miniscript/
>>> > [2] In Taproot, if you want to prevent signatures migrating to another
>>> > branch or within a branch, you can use the CODESEPARATOR opcode
>>> > which was redisegned in Taproot for exactly this purpose... we
>>> > really did about witness malleation in its design!
>>>
>>> In Taproot the tapleaf hash is always covered by the signature (though
>>> not in some ANYONECANPAY proposals) so you can never migrate signatures
>>> between tapbranches.
>>>
>>> I had thought this was the case, but then I re-confused myself by
>>> reading BIP 341 .... which has much of the sighash specified, but not
>>> all of it! The tapleaf hash is added in BIP 342.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > If you want to prevent signatures from moving around *within* a
>>> > branch,
>>> >
>>>
>>> And this sentence I just meant to delete :)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew Poelstra
>>> Director of Research, Blockstream
>>> Email: apoelstra at wpsoftware.net
>>> Web: https://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew
>>>
>>> The sun is always shining in space
>>> -Justin Lewis-Webster
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>

Is this something that should be fixed in bip118 signatures then?

Cheers,
aj
-- 
Sent from my phone.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-11  5:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-07  2:49 Yuval Kogman
2023-02-07  4:38 ` Lloyd Fournier
2023-02-07  9:36 ` Nadav Ivgi
2023-02-07 12:50   ` Peter Todd
2023-02-07 13:46 ` Andrew Poelstra
2023-02-07 18:10   ` Andrew Poelstra
2023-02-07 18:35     ` Russell O'Connor
2023-02-07 19:04       ` Peter Todd
2023-02-08  9:34       ` Michael Folkson
2023-02-08 14:00         ` Andrew Poelstra
2023-02-08 14:04         ` Russell O'Connor
2023-02-11  5:14           ` Anthony Towns [this message]
2023-02-11 14:40             ` Russell O'Connor
2023-02-12  6:47               ` Anthony Towns
2023-02-07 18:12   ` Peter Todd
2023-02-08  0:56 ` Antoine Riard
2023-02-10 19:35   ` Yuval Kogman
2023-02-15  3:33     ` Antoine Riard

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