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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp•com.au>
To: Jeremy <jlrubin@mit•edu>,
	Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>,
	Bitcoin development mailing list
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] March 23rd 2021 Taproot Activation Meeting Notes
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2021 13:55:21 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874kgkkpji.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD5xwhiXE=yJFi+9aZQqMOCaiUrJ_UEvcESR3E0j2SA1RnbqmA@mail.gmail.com>

Jeremy via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> writes:
> We had a very productive meeting today. Here is a summary of the meeting --
> I've done my best to
> summarize in an unbiased way. Thank you to everyone who attended.
>
> 1. On the use of a speedy trial variant:
>
> - There are no new objections to speedy trial generally.
> - There is desire to know if Rusty retracts or reaffirms his NACK in light
> of the responses.

I do not withdraw my NACK (and kudos: there have been few attempts to
pressure me to do so!).

The core question always was: what do we do if miners fail to activate?

Luke-Jr takes the approach that "we (i.e developers) ensure it activates
anyway".  I take the approach that "the users must make a direct
intervention".  Speedy Trial takes the approach that "let's pretend we
didn't *actually* ask them".

It's totally a political approach, to avoid facing the awkward question.
Since I believe that such prevaricating makes a future crisis less
predictable, I am forced to conclude that it makes bitcoin less robust.

Personally, I think the compromise position is using LOT=false and
having those such as Luke and myself continue working on a LOT=true
branch for future consideration.  It's less than optimal, but I
appreciate that people want Taproot activated more than they want
the groundwork future upgrades.

I hope that helps,
Rusty.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-06 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-24  3:46 Jeremy
2021-03-25  7:02 ` Anthony Towns
2021-03-25 14:30   ` Jeremy
2021-04-06  4:25 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2021-04-07  1:20   ` Ryan Grant
2021-04-07  5:01     ` Rusty Russell
2021-04-07 13:42       ` Claus Ehrenberg
2021-04-07 15:25         ` eric
2021-04-07 17:13       ` Matt Corallo
2021-04-08 11:11       ` Anthony Towns
2021-03-24 11:23 Michael Folkson
2021-03-24 18:10 ` Jeremy
2021-03-24 19:14   ` Michael Folkson

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