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From: Ali Sherief <ali@notatether•com>
To: Bitcoin Development Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [bitcoindev] Re: A Fool's Errand or should I try?
Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 04:55:47 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <91d3be30-a672-4407-8d11-902df8ff4f54n@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75628135-32ae-4df3-be52-9f7d054bc096n@googlegroups.com>


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Currently the only way you can fetch the previous input addresses and 
amounts is if you use the getblock RPC call with a verbosity of 3. This 
will obviously cause it to print a lot of raw transactions. But since 
decoderawtrasnsaction is independent of the blocks that are actually stored 
on your disk, you'd have to modify it to locate each input inside the 
blocks.dat folder, and then assemble an equivalent "prevout" structure as 
in getblock.

There is also the issue of the txo not actually existing in the blockchain, 
which means that such a prevout structure would not exist in the first 
place.

I think it would be better to create a separate RPC for this, maybe 
'getfulltransaction' or something like that since gettransaction for 
in-walet txs already exists, to implement such functionality.

-Ali

On Saturday, May 4, 2024 at 3:40:24 PM UTC Fractal Encrypt wrote:

> TLDR: I'd like to investigate the possibilities of extending 
> decoderawtransaction to include the fee (and maybe even sats per v/b).
>
> I'm hoping it will be a good project for me to work on and build at least 
> a tiny understanding of bitcoin development.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I use the createrawtransaction function to create transactions, and before 
> broadcasting, I always like to use decoderawtransaction to see if I made 
> any mistakes.
>
> I've sometimes messed up on the fee calculation, as I do that myself with 
> a calculator.
>
> Unfortunately decoderawtransaction doesn't give me the fee information 
> (for a very good reason, it is not aware of the value of the inputs in the 
> tx).
>
> So to double check the fees, instead of using createrawtransaction, I'll 
> use createpsbt and then go through the process of finalizing it so I can 
> run decodepsbt, which does give the fee along with all the other relevant 
> data.
>
> But the createpsbt process is more work for a simple transaction where all 
> UTXOs are in the wallet I am creating the rawtx in.
>
> My goal would be to modify decoderawtransaction to perform these 
> additional steps:
>    
>    1. Fetch UTXO details for each input.
>    2. Calculate the total input value.
>    3. Subtract the total output value to determine the fee.
>
> Additionally there are the considerations about whether the inputs in the 
> transaction are in your wallet or not. 
>
> If I run listunspent it gives me the info I need to create the raw tx or 
> psbt, and it has the values of the UTXOs that will be used as inputs in my 
> tx.
>
> But I understand decoderawtransaction is meant to be used whether or not 
> the keys are in your wallet (so I was thinking to make a command argument 
> T/F to show the fee value only if keys are in your wallet).
>
> Alternatively if you are running the command in a node with txindex, then 
> you have the full chainstate to look up txids (whether unspent or not) - so 
> this needs to be addressed too.
>
> Doing this within my own node would be cool enough and I don't necessarily 
> need it to go farther than that. However if I do get it working, I'd 
> certainly try to submit a PR.
>
> I have no idea if any of this is possible, so I wanted to ask here for 
> some guidance and maybe mentorship in this self-interest driven project. 
> Also looking for this to be shot down mercilessly if it's just ridiculous.
>
> My abilities and skills are very low. My interest and persistence are high.
>
> Any help or ridicule invited ;)
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-05 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-04 15:00 [bitcoindev] " Fractal Encrypt
2024-05-05 11:55 ` Ali Sherief [this message]
2024-05-05 15:03   ` [bitcoindev] " Fractal Encrypt
2024-05-06  8:09 ` [bitcoindev] " bitcoin-dev-ml.void867 via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-05-06 23:51   ` Fractal Encrypt
2024-05-07  5:15     ` bitcoin-dev-ml.void867 via Bitcoin Development Mailing List

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