From: Michael Gronager <gronager@ceptacle•com>
To: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Chain dust mitigation: Demurrage based Chain Vacuuming
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:24:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9CEDE4D4-3685-4F70-953E-15CC50A8AA3F@ceptacle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPg+sBi25xP8R03y1VR=q4ZJaeT6FAuV=hXsq_7niSHycpnPuA@mail.gmail.com>
> If this were a proposal at the time Bitcoin was created, I would definitely be in favor, but I feel we can't just change such a policy right now - it's not what people signed up for when they started using the system. I also see no way to implement this without a hard fork, which would require planning at least 1-2 years in advance (imho). By that time, the economic landscape of Bitcoin may be vastly different, and either dust spam will have killed it, or we will have found another solution already.
Bitcoin aka the blockchain is defined by the majority of the miners. This is what people have signed up to imo. A scheme that a) is of benefit for us all and b) is also of economical benefit for the miners, will likely be accepted quite fast - especially now when the bounty was just halved... I also fear that there is a lot of BTCs that is effectively un-owned and it could even drive Satoshi to use some of his BTCs ;)
> Personally, I think the best solution is to change the mining policy to prioritize (and perhaps favor for free relay/inclusion) transactions that reduce the number of UTXO's.
Agree - initially (and possibly in parallel) this would be a nice path to follow - it could be done solely by adjusting the relay fee: Transactions that increases the # UTXOs pay extra, those that reduce it pay less (symmetrical around a minimum fee). So in other words we 'tax' increasing the size of the UTXOs.
No matter how it is done - as long as a client is not punished for getting rid of dust, and clients are rewritten to do this automatically we could re-evaluate after a some time - but currently the number of UTXOs is growing rapidly.
/M
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-03 12:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-03 11:19 Michael Gronager
2012-12-03 12:05 ` Pieter Wuille
2012-12-03 12:24 ` Michael Gronager [this message]
2012-12-03 12:33 ` Pieter Wuille
2012-12-03 15:02 ` Gregory Maxwell
2012-12-03 15:17 ` Alan Reiner
2012-12-03 15:30 ` Mike Hearn
2012-12-03 16:18 ` Stephen Pair
2012-12-03 16:29 ` Alan Reiner
2012-12-03 19:50 ` Andreas Petersson
2012-12-03 20:14 ` Gregory Maxwell
2012-12-03 15:51 ` Gregory Maxwell
2012-12-03 12:40 ` Wladimir
2012-12-03 13:04 ` Michael Gronager
2012-12-03 15:00 ` Mike Hearn
2012-12-03 15:07 ` Gregory Maxwell
2012-12-03 15:09 ` Mike Hearn
2012-12-03 17:02 ` Mark Friedenbach
2012-12-04 9:54 ` Andy Parkins
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