It could be laziness but i doubt it, especially when the business is so competitive and margins ever shrinking.Half a million dollars in revenue mean little if your running costs are also in the same region. Also apologies for the bad formatting, outlook must have screwed it up. EmptyBlock /Time since previous block/ Size of previous block(bytes)/Mined by====================================================370165 29s 720784 Antpool370160 31s 50129 BTCChinaPool370076 49s 469988 F2Pool370059 34s 110994 Antpool370057 73s 131603 Antpool > Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 05:15:15 -0400 > From: jl2012@xbt.hk > To: luvb@hotmail.com > CC: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Miners are struggling with blocks far smaller than 750KB blocks and resorting to SPV mining > > The traffic between the pool server and individual hashers is far busier > than 50kB/30s. If their bandwidth is so limited, hashers would have > switched to other pools already. > > All these data may prove is they have very bad mining codes. For > example, their hashers may not be required to update the transaction > list regularly. I don't think they are struggling. They are just too > lazy or think that's too risky to improve their code. After all, they > are generating half million USD per day and a few seconds of downtime > would hurt. > > By the way, vast majority of the full blocks (>0.99MB) on the blockchain > are generated by Chinese pools. > > Luv Khemani via bitcoin-dev ì¶ 2015-08-17 04:42 Œ‘µ½: > > Hi all, > > > > I previously mentioned in a post that i believe that technically > > nodes are capable of handling blocks an order of magnitude larger than > > the current blocksize limit, the only missing thing was an incentive > > to run them. I have been monitoring the blockchain for the past couple > > of weeks and am seeing that even miners who have all the incentives > > are for whatever reason struggling to download and validate much > > smaller blocks. > > > > The data actually paints a very grim picture of the current > > bandwidth/validating capacity of the global mining network. > > > > See the following empty blocks mined despite a non-trivial elapsed > > time from the previous block just from the past couple of days alone > > (Data from insight.bitpay.com): > > > > EmptyBlock /Time since previous block/ Size of previous > > block(bytes)/Mined by > > ====================================================370165 29s 720784 > > Antpool > > 370160 31s 50129 BTCChinaPool > > 370076 49s 469988 F2Pool > > 370059 34s 110994 Antpool > > 370057 73s 131603 Antpool > > > > We have preceding blocks as small as 50KB with 30s passing and the > > miner continues to mine empty blocks via SPV mining. > > The most glaring case is Block 370057 where despite 73s elapsing and > > the preceding block being a mere 131KB, the miner is unable to > > download/validate fast enough to include transactions in his block. > > Unless ofcourse the miner is mining empty blocks on purpose, which > > does not make sense as all of these pools do mine blocks with > > transactions when the elapsed time is greater. > > > > This is a cause for great concern, because if miners are SPV mining > > for a whole minute for <750KB blocks, at 8MB blocks, the network will > > just fall apart as a significant portion of the hashing power SPV > > mines throughout. All a single malicious miner has to do is mine an > > invalid block on purpose, let these pools SPV mine on top of them > > while it mines a valid block free of their competition. Yes, these > > pools deserve to lose money in that event, but the impact of reorgs > > and many block orphans for anyone not running a full node could be > > disastrous, especially more so in the XT world where Mike wants > > everyone to be running SPV nodes. I simply don't see the XT fork > > having any chance of surviving if SPV nodes are unreliable. > > > > And if these pools go out of business, it will lead to even more > > mining centralization which is already too centralized today. > > > > Can anyone representing these pools comment on why this is happening? > > Are these pools on Matt's relay network? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > bitcoin-dev mailing list > > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >