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From: Tamas Blummer <tamas@bitsofproof•com>
To: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
Cc: Bitcoin Development <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] The Bitcoin Freeze on Transaction Attack (FRONT)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 05:22:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C91A515E-E08F-4112-B4A3-1B0FCF5E60C8@bitsofproof.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANEZrP2_9tRGpZ4gySHvohy0g2PsaQF9u+-tZ-bmn8JtgweihA@mail.gmail.com>

Note that the problem might arise also by a bug / accident and not as an attack.

Since value spent is not part of the signature it is easy to create an arbitrary fee by a defective wallet software.
Collecting that huge fee might provide a higher incentive to miner than the block subsidy on the trunk.

Assuming miner are fully rational, they might even form a temporary coalition to claim the fee:
The miner who mines forking block might offer part of the fee gained in a similar transaction to
other miners, so they help to extend his fork. A sufficiently high stake could trigger a long
fork “battle” of ad-hoc coalitions.

Addressing the known bug of the signature hash, that it does not include the value spent,
would have other positive effects, e.g. for resource limited hardware wallets.

Interpretation of an OP_NOP for a value hashing signature check were suggested by Alan Reiner
discussed earlier on bitcointalk.

Tamas Blummer


  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-06 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-05 23:00 Sergio Lerner
2014-10-05 23:40 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-10-05 23:50   ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-10-05 23:54   ` Jorge Timón
2014-10-06  0:01     ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-10-06 11:02       ` Mike Hearn
2014-10-06 12:22         ` Tamas Blummer [this message]
2014-10-06  6:42 ` Alex Mizrahi
2014-10-06 13:21   ` Sergio Lerner
2014-10-06 13:29     ` Tamas Blummer
     [not found] <543438E4.8080501@certimix.com>
2014-10-07 19:04 ` Sergio Lerner
2014-10-07 19:16   ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-10-07 20:04     ` Sergio Lerner
2014-10-08 10:19       ` Mike Hearn

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