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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@exmulti•com>
To: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net"
	<bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 33 - Stratized Nodes
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:22:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+8xBpeUq5O1bfQzfoLzot+Hmr28xBXG7uUhL4O8P_owXO0=Mg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANEZrP1t-xhHqJ0xGQwxxx-ddtRh7jtn9Yhcau2prKNt+PZHgw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net> wrote:
> Thanks for getting this started.
>
> With regards to the specific proposal, I don't believe it's the best option
> and still plan to eventually implement the original design outlined more
> than a year ago in this thread:
>
>   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7972.msg116285#msg116285
>
> Namely that you use a new protocol command to set a Bloom filter on a
> connection. Only transactions matching that filter will appear in relayed
> inventory. Blocks that are requested will arrive as a header plus
> transaction/merkle branch pairs. Clients are expected to maintain and track
> the block chain as per usual, but instead of downloading the whole chain and
> then dropping the irrelevant transactions, that filtering is done server
> side. By strengthening or weakening the Bloom filters you can choose your
> preferred point on the privacy/bandwidth-usage spectrum. It is a fairly
> simple change to the Satoshi and BitcoinJ codebases but still allows clients
> to gain confidence in their balance by examining the chain, and this is true
> even in the presence of a hijacked internet connection (you can't trust
> pending transactions that way, but you can still trust confirmed
> transactions).

Makes sense.

In an idealized model of a client as a set of private keys, they will
want to (a) notice new activity on these keys, (b) notice increased
confidence on existing transactions with those keys [confirmations],
and (c) be able to submit to the network new transactions.  Your
proposal covers those bases, I believe.

-- 
Jeff Garzik
exMULTI, Inc.
jgarzik@exmulti•com



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-16 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-16 16:34 Amir Taaki
2012-05-16 16:46 ` Mike Hearn
2012-05-16 17:32   ` Amir Taaki
2012-05-16 18:22   ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2012-05-16 16:49 ` Peter Vessenes
2012-05-16 17:37   ` Amir Taaki

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