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From: Bram Cohen <bram@bittorrent•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Height based vs block time based thresholds
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 20:39:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+KqGkqMtHzxzKObn7OkXsdrP4sKOFm-z1bJWThhPe4jXFmzDw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 6:30 PM, shaolinfry via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Some people have criticized BIP9's blocktime based thresholds arguing they
> are confusing (the first retarget after threshold). It is also vulnerable
> to miners fiddling with timestamps in a way that could prevent or delay
> activation - for example by only advancing the block timestamp by 1 second
> you would never meet the threshold (although this would come a the penalty
> of hiking the difficulty dramatically).
>
> On the other hand, the exact date of a height based thresholds is hard to
> predict a long time in advance due to difficulty fluctuations. However,
> there is certainty at a given block height and it's easy to monitor.
>

You could get most of the best of both with a combination of the two: Have
the activation be a timestamp plus a certain number of blocks to come after
maybe about 100, which is more than enough to make sure all the games which
can be played with timestamps have passed but a small enough amount that it
doesn't add much uncertainty to wall clock time.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-05  3:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-05  1:30 shaolinfry
2017-07-05  2:25 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2017-07-05  3:39 ` Bram Cohen [this message]
2017-07-05  3:50 ` Luke Dashjr
2017-07-05  4:00   ` shaolinfry
2017-07-05  4:10     ` Luke Dashjr
2017-07-05 19:44       ` Hampus Sjöberg
2017-07-06 17:20         ` Jorge Timón
2017-07-06 17:41           ` Eric Voskuil
2017-07-05  8:06   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-05  8:54     ` Kekcoin
2017-07-06 20:43     ` Luke Dashjr
2017-07-07  5:52 ` shaolinfry
2017-07-07  9:51   ` Jorge Timón

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